Spencer Matthews

And I just find it interesting.

I know you're not an expert on addiction, but...

when you take drugs, alcohol, when does addiction come into it?

Do you know from a scientific perspective?

Must you abuse a substance or a product for an extended period of time for it to become a problem?

Or are some people just predisposed to, well, I've had this drink on a Friday, now I'm just going to do that all the time type of thing?

Is it a myth that

that like a couple of drinks will make you better at something.

So kind of like, do you know what I mean?

No, it's not.

Like it may be that, you know, you feel that a couple of pints will make you a better darts player or, you know, it may even be that, you know, a couple of drinks might make you feel like you're a better lover.

You know, what...

Is there any truth to that or is that just freeing your mind a bit and taking on the alcohol, being a little less nervous in the moment and essentially tapping into some potential higher performance or is that just not relevant?

darts snooker other enhanced slightly but it was it was deemed a performance enhancing sport in those sports balance awful no but you're sure though because say for example I'm just having a bit of fun here yeah so so like your fear may diminish yeah so say you had to walk you know between like two skyscrapers on you know a plank of wood yes

Yeah, you said something interesting earlier that you've recently read that if alcohol were discovered today, the dosage would be minute per year, a couple of shots a year or something.

We use that in our clean codex that if alcohol were a new product today, like if alcohol didn't exist and you took it to market today and you had a meeting with the Tesco's buyer, they'd think you were...

literally insane yeah right like they would look at you like you're an alien and they would laugh yeah profusely at you and make you feel like a total idiot yeah before chucking you out yes um because you know obviously there's there's literally no benefit to it big toxin you know very calorific awful for your health uh you know it gives you all kinds of stuff and you know by all accounts will kill you perfect so you know why would you stock it um

It's interesting though, isn't it, that it plays such a kind of pivotal role in society and shows some sign of slowing down.

But why is it you think that people don't have stronger views on alcohol?

I know we've moved off piste a bit though, but like, you know, for example, it also has a stigma attached to it, right?