Spencer Matthews

at the very time that I, I literally, I could have got up at any time, like, and opened the curtains, and it was like something out of The Lion King, just the sun just went, and I was like, I couldn't believe it, because if it was 10 seconds earlier, I wouldn't have seen it, and if it was 10 seconds later, the sun would already be up, so kind of it, curtains,

It was like the start of a play or something.

A massive, great, big, you know, it was just... And I remember then thinking like, wow, what are the chances of that?

You know, just like random flight time.

So I don't know.

There was a fair few moments like that.

And sorry, you asked me when I cried.

I think I shed a tear in Cape Town at the end of a really long, difficult day.

It was...

probably the first time that the challenge felt very dangerous and that it could come to an end in the water.

I felt a tremendous sense of fear and was overwhelmed with what I can only describe as

Potential panic.

Are you talking about Cape Town here?

Yeah, I was.

The water at Cape Town.

Nine degrees.

It's in the back of your mind, yeah.

You know, I think you have to try and rationalise all of it in real time.

And this is something I'd love to talk to you about, fear.

You know, you can...