Stacey Evans
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first heard Apr 2025
last heard Apr 2025
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So the exact same thing that he said this is not internally, he told the viewers internally. That's why this is such a big story, because this is what it makes us think of. It was very, very reckless and very disappointing to me to see that see it happen this way.
No. And that was the bigger problem. It would have been one thing to say, OK, here's what Don Wooten is saying. But we haven't been able to verify from anyone who was actually in the room. We haven't looked at medical records. And We're we're being skeptical here, which internally they were saying standards was saying to Chris Hayes specifically, we need to be skeptical.
And in fact, they were just validating. There were I don't remember if it was Chris Hayes or other on air talent or his producers that were. calling Don Wooten their hero. And our hero is here to share the truth with us, just really putting her up on a pedestal and then calling Dr. Amin a so-called medical professional, so-called medical professional.
That's how things were going behind the scenes. So they're definitely saying one thing behind the scenes, and then they're saying another thing on air. And then it goes up. So you've got Nicole Wallace at Deadline White House, then you've got Chris Hayes And then after that, you've got Rachel Maddow, which really took it to the next level.
And we alluded to it earlier when she made this really an election issue and said this is the Trump administration's mistreatment of immigrants. And Dr. Amin is part of that and going through the child separation policy and going through tracking of immigrants. of immigrant women's menstrual cycles when they're in detention. And now Dr. Amin, the next chapter.
And that was such a terrible outlandish thing to say, but even more so because earlier that day, when she was internal records during deposition, during discovery revealed, she had been having her production meeting with her team. And she starts out saying, if it's true, we should go with it. But there's, there's some reason to be doubtful here. I think there's a lot of jumping to conclusions here.
And then according to the document, eight minutes later, she is saying this is going to be the A block and this is going to be the chapter of this immigration situation with no evidence that we ever saw that any new information came in. And that to me is just so egregious. And she's got such a platform and so many people look up to her as a smart. and hardworking and thorough journalists.
And for her to be so flippant about Dr. Amin and what he did here just was really too much.
No, no, there was not that. And in fact, for her and some of the other folks that we depose on air talent, but also producers, what struck me was how flippant folks were about, that was a long time ago. I do a lot of stories. I don't remember. That one just didn't stick out for me. And I thought, how callous. And yeah, maybe it was a flashpoint in time for you.
Maybe it was part of some agenda for you. But this was Dr. Amin's life. This is what he lives with every day. Maybe you can move on from it in a second and put it out of your mind and not worry about how reckless you were. But he had to live with this.
He had to live with the death threats, the bomb threats, the constant calls to his office, the following of him, the name calling some of the most vile things to be called his own staff. He had several Hispanic women working for him. He lost some employees over this.
A lot of the women stayed and they took also flack in their own communities and with their family and friends because they were working for him. But they knew I mean, they knew this man. They knew that this wasn't true. They knew that how these women were treated, which was well when they were in Dr. Amin's office. And thank goodness they stood by him. But it was a terrible time.
He wasn't able to move on.
Absolutely. Dr. Amin's son, his middle name is Mahendra, the same as Dr. Amin's first name, Paraj Mahendra Amin, Dr. Amin himself. And when all of the news hit and Dr. Amin was very scared about what was going to happen to him and others, he immediately thought of his son and he called his son. He said, you might get calls. because your name is so close to mine.
And if you get calls, just tell them you don't know me. Just tell them that you don't know me, that it's just a coincidence that you have the same name. Because he was so concerned that his son, who had just gotten his dream job, was going to be affected negatively about this, so much so that he was just like, pretend like you don't know me. And that just breaks my heart.
I mean, Dr. Amin is a father of four, caring husband, doctor, father. And to know that he had to say that to his son.
Yeah, absolutely. And that's really what the guy from standards was saying, is that if we're going to do this, we've got to we've got to caveat it with this and this and this. And then it's worth saying, why are we even doing the story? And he acknowledges during one of those internal calls to with Chris Hayes and his producers. Hey, we can get to the bottom of this and we can find out.
But by the time we find out, we're not going to want to do the story more. It's going to be too late. I mean, really just sort of acknowledging how they were rushing here. And and I agree where Trump gets reelected. Yeah. I mean, the media, the media has an important job and I know it's gotta be hard.
And, and I've had cases that have come to me and I've started looking at them and I'm like, Oh, this is a great case. This is a great case. But when you find out facts and, That tell you it's not when you're in the media and you have you think of this great story, but then you find out facts that tell you that show to you that it's not. You have to stop. And I think you said it.
It was just too good. They had gotten they really wanted this. I think Julia Ainsley and Jacob Soberoff, they had done this book on or Soberoff had done a book on the child separation policies. They had won some awards for reporting in that. This was their next immigration story.
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