Stan Van Gundy

I will say this.

I don't want to pat myself on the back, but even when I was coaching Zach, I I spend a lot of time on this because I think it's important to players.

And so I think as as voters.

it shouldn't be just off the top of your head.

I think you need to sit down, you need to watch a lot of games, you need to look at all the numbers, and you need to give it a lot of thought.

I think we all as voters owe that to the players.

So I think this is, of the years I've been voting for these, I think it was the hardest.

I mean, I think a

A lot of these are really, really close.

The only easy one to me is Defensive Player of the Year.

That one's easy.

I mean, I don't know how you vote for anybody other than Wim Benyam.

I think there's other great defenders in the league.

There's guys I really like, but I don't know how you vote for anybody else on Defensive Player of the Year if he gets his 65 games, which he should.

But every other award to me was very, very difficult.

Same guy I've had for every year I've been a voter, Jokic.

Well, first of all, I think Jokic's defense is underrated.

I think that that knock should have gone out five years ago.

He's not Wim Benyama.

He's not Rudy Gobert, but he's a solid defender.