Stefan Passantino
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first heard Nov 2024
last heard Nov 2024
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It was, in my mind... still a legitimate area of inquiry for the Department of Justice. I didn't really think a lot of it at the time. Clearly, I'd never been the subject of a criminal investigation in my life. I don't hope to be again. But that conversation then happened. I then had to hire a lawyer to start providing all of the information. One of the things that was really interesting is the...
from the DOJ, you know, we want to know all of your communications with Tony Ornato, which I'd never had any. And we want all of your text messages and signal messages and everything with Cassidy Hutchinson and all of your other witnesses that you would write. I was clearly getting a forensic criminal audit from the Department of Justice.
was responding to that, but still didn't have super high blood pressure. I just thought that's just a cost of life of working in Washington and being a Trump lawyer. If you haven't been subpoenaed, I guess you haven't really practiced law in Washington, D.C., I guess. But it was only...
Later, when out of the blue, I learned that I was effectively going to be made the fall guy for obstruction, all of the obstruction that had happened for Cassidy Hutchinson. And that happened right... As a way to explain...
One could infer that that was in fact the purpose. And what had happened, which was shocking, the part that really just sort of upended my world and made me then realize the degree to which the institutions were all aligned to create a narrative that
to further a political purpose as opposed to anything else was, I think this was by December of 2022, I get a phone call from Pam Brown of CNN, who I had known previously, saying, hey, the committee has been talking that they are going to out the various people who are obstructing Congress, obstructing Cassidy Hutchinson. We are going to identify those people. I said, well, that's
Great, but I didn't have anything to do with that. And she says, no, we, CNN, are in possession of a transcript that Cassidy Hutchinson gave, a 150-page transcript that she gave on September 14th, in which she identifies you, Stefan, as the person who told her to lie, who couched her to say, I don't recall when I do all of these things. We're going to run with that story. And I said...
Well, I'm telling you, I know nothing of these allegations. I've never heard these allegations. The January 6th committee never called me as a witness. They called 2,000 people. They never called me in. If this is a fact-finding mission, you would think that perhaps I would be called at a minimum to be told. Especially since you're being accused of a crime. Yes.
literally a crime, two crimes, a felony of obstruction, witness tampering. These are felonies. And CNN tells me, we're going to run a story tomorrow in which we are going to identify you as the person who obstructed this witness. We're going to accuse you of a crime. Of course, I was shocked. I said, I've never heard this. I can't really provide a lot of comment.
Well, on that Monday, as the story is breaking- So your world is collapsing. My world has not yet collapsed. I, at that point, have now received notice from CNN that tomorrow, Tuesday, they're going to identify me as the person. On that day, on Monday, I receive a phone call from one of Cassie Hutchinson's former friends saying, this is outrageous what they're doing to you.
I have text messages that I have previously provided to CNN and other news networks. And these text messages make clear that you, Stefan, were telling Cassidy to cooperate and she didn't want to cooperate. Now, I have a conversation at that point with Caitlin Polance at CNN, who's the CNN reporter who's running this story before it had come out. And I called Caitlin myself. I said, Caitlin,
I am aware that you're going to run this story that is going to literally accuse me of a crime. And I'm aware that you have a transcript that I have never seen before that is going to make these accusations. But I'm also aware that you are in possession of text messages that directly contradict that narrative. You have Cassidy's text messages saying, Stefan wants me to cooperate.
I don't want to cooperate. I am going to be the one who's going to do this media narrative myself. on my own behind his back. And so I'd say, Caitlin, I said, I'm not asking you to exonerate me, but if CNN is going to run a story identifying me as a criminal and you are in possession of additional facts that create exculpatory documents, you have an obligation to run that.
And Caitlin Polance's direct quote to me was, that's not newsworthy. I said, how is that not newsworthy? This is directly relevant. She said that to you? She said that to me. Caitlin Polance? Caitlin Polance of CNN, who is still there at CNN. And I then had my lawyer communicate and have numerous conversations where I say, I know.
Correct. Did not deny. Said it was not newsworthy. So then... At that point, I know- This is just crazy.
Correct. And it is clear to me that CNN has received confidential congressional documents pertaining to me that I have never seen. CNN had had, for however long it was, CNN had had this transcript to work on the story. I had no idea of these allegations.
Well, it gets worse for me, unfortunately, which is that story then comes out the next day. And you can imagine what a bombshell it is.
Oh, never. To this day, never. And in fact, the things that I begged CNN... What liars, what corrupt liars CNN is. Yeah, I begged CNN. I said, you're going to release a transcript in which a witness is saying that I coached her to lie while I was representing.
You have in your possession the actual transcripts of me representing her at a minimum post those two so that the public can see, well, let me actually read the transcript of Stefan representing Cassidy Hutchinson and let me judge for myself whether he did the things he was accused of doing.
I have text messages with Pamela Brown saying, please, I'm begging you, if you're going to destroy my career and you're going to put up this transcript accusing me, at least put up the others. To this day, I don't think that they have.
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