Stefan Passantino

Correct. Well, it's one of the lawyer's greatest sort of Matlock cross-examination that everyone dreams of is, were you lying then or were you lying now? I've been there in depositions.

Correct. Well, it's one of the lawyer's greatest sort of Matlock cross-examination that everyone dreams of is, were you lying then or were you lying now? I've been there in depositions.

Correct. Well, it's one of the lawyer's greatest sort of Matlock cross-examination that everyone dreams of is, were you lying then or were you lying now? I've been there in depositions.

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So this is Cassidy Hutchinson that we were talking about who famously testified live before the committee. and that it became extraordinarily well known that she was an extremely powerful witness when she testified live before the committee.

So this is Cassidy Hutchinson that we were talking about who famously testified live before the committee. and that it became extraordinarily well known that she was an extremely powerful witness when she testified live before the committee.

So this is Cassidy Hutchinson that we were talking about who famously testified live before the committee. and that it became extraordinarily well known that she was an extremely powerful witness when she testified live before the committee.

And as one of the elements of providing that testimony, there was significant discussion of the fact that she had previously had this Trump lawyer who had effectively coached her not to tell the truth, had coached her to say, I don't recall when in fact she did recall. All of those things were being accused of me as the lawyer.

And as one of the elements of providing that testimony, there was significant discussion of the fact that she had previously had this Trump lawyer who had effectively coached her not to tell the truth, had coached her to say, I don't recall when in fact she did recall. All of those things were being accused of me as the lawyer.

And as one of the elements of providing that testimony, there was significant discussion of the fact that she had previously had this Trump lawyer who had effectively coached her not to tell the truth, had coached her to say, I don't recall when in fact she did recall. All of those things were being accused of me as the lawyer.

So Cassidy Hutchinson, I don't know that we actually overlapped in the White House together. And if we did, I didn't know her. But she came in as, I believe, started as an intern. I think she was 25 years old at the time. And ultimately rose to a very...

So Cassidy Hutchinson, I don't know that we actually overlapped in the White House together. And if we did, I didn't know her. But she came in as, I believe, started as an intern. I think she was 25 years old at the time. And ultimately rose to a very...

So Cassidy Hutchinson, I don't know that we actually overlapped in the White House together. And if we did, I didn't know her. But she came in as, I believe, started as an intern. I think she was 25 years old at the time. And ultimately rose to a very...

prominent position with Mark Meadows in the chief of staff office in that she had proximity and access to a great deal that was happening in the White House. And so she was one of these myriad of witnesses, not to my mind, unlike a number of the other witnesses who I had been bringing before the committee, who might've observed things and might've seen things, had provided her testimony.

prominent position with Mark Meadows in the chief of staff office in that she had proximity and access to a great deal that was happening in the White House. And so she was one of these myriad of witnesses, not to my mind, unlike a number of the other witnesses who I had been bringing before the committee, who might've observed things and might've seen things, had provided her testimony.

prominent position with Mark Meadows in the chief of staff office in that she had proximity and access to a great deal that was happening in the White House. And so she was one of these myriad of witnesses, not to my mind, unlike a number of the other witnesses who I had been bringing before the committee, who might've observed things and might've seen things, had provided her testimony.

I thought it was over. It only happened subsequently that I learned that while I was representing her, Liz Cheney was communicating with her behind my back while I was her lawyer. Now, that's a Lawyer 101 thing that you're just not allowed to do. One of the things that's set up within our legal rules of ethics in order to prevent

I thought it was over. It only happened subsequently that I learned that while I was representing her, Liz Cheney was communicating with her behind my back while I was her lawyer. Now, that's a Lawyer 101 thing that you're just not allowed to do. One of the things that's set up within our legal rules of ethics in order to prevent