Steph McGovern

But what is not changing is your focus and mission to try and work out why there are so many young people not in work and also what we can do about it.

So when we last spoke to you, you hadn't started this review.

Now you are leading this review.

I know you're quite far into it.

There'll be stuff coming out from it over the next few months.

But can you just give us a flavour of what you've been doing and where you're at with it?

Yeah, that's a really interesting point about how for the first time in a long time, people think that their children are going to be worse off than them.

I mean, that's quite, that says it all, doesn't it?

Because the whole, you know, the whole thing is that everyone betters themselves.

You know, maybe the first time kids go to uni in the family or, you know, the first time they get above a certain pay and income.

And that is just, God, it says it all that, that people feel so, I guess, pessimistic about.

Alan, there's loads more I want to talk to you about, but let's go to a quick break.

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Greg Jackson is back to answer another question.

Now, this is something that we see a lot that I wanted to ask you about.

When you're building a business from scratch, what's the most important thing early on and what do people get wrong?

What surprised you most when you were launching Kraken?

Cheers, Greg.

Right.

Well, you'll be hearing more from Greg throughout the year.