Stephanie Ruhle
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1,137 appearances
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6 series
first heard Dec 2024
last heard 12 Jun
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I agree with everything you're saying as analysis that this is how CEOs feel. I mean, you talk to more CEOs than I do. Even trickle down to the types of people that I talk to that work for CEOs. I'm not defending it.
I know you're not. I know you're not. I agree with the analysis. Here's my thing, though. When you're having these conversations, what I wonder, you mentioned they felt like they had so much pressure to do all these initiatives and that this is now an attempt that there can be some backlash against this. And I saw a post by my man Tyler Austin Harper, and he wrote this.
None of the corporate overlords shrieking about liberation from wokeness want to own the fact that nobody put a gun to their head and said they needed to do insane progressive HR programming or pay Ibram X. Kendi $532 a minute for Zoom calls. They could have simply done nothing or they could have simply just done their little Citibank's gay pride float. Now, this isn't Tyler anymore.
This is me editorializing and not done all the other stuff. They did it.
From who? Not Joe Biden. It wasn't like the Biden administration was breathing down their neck saying, you've got to do this, ESG.
And it was also a little bit of a headache of their own making. This is what I'm saying. If you want to bring some masculine energy, Mr. CEOs, and I do notice we're worried that simultaneously saying DEI has become a problem and gone overboard, all of the oligarchs sitting right behind Donald Trump on stage are men, are white men, except for Sundar.
So it's like, I guess we haven't fully, you know, achieved balance quite yet when it comes to gender. But it's like these guys that want to bring masculine energy, they could have just said, hey, activist group writing a press release about how my company doesn't have the appropriate number of whatever, you know, since I'm gay, I can just.
use gays as the example, like gay employees, like pound sand. Like we're trying to get money for our shareholders. We're doing the best we can. Like they could have had balls. Like why did they need Donald Trump winning to give them balls? I guess is my point.
The boss side did pretty good the last five years too, though. I'm a capitalist. This is why I'm saying I'm like, I don't get why they're so much more sensitive than me. I'm generally on all their side. Look, if the economy was doing poorly, if their stock prices were going down, like none of that was happening. They just didn't like the hassle. I guess this is what I'm trying to get under it.
They didn't like the hassle. It wasn't really like their shareholders were being hurt by this or that their bottom line was being hurt. They didn't like the hassle.
Bud Light, I guess.
We can nitpick about the Democrats a little more in a second, but I just, you're talking to these guys and I'm not. So I just want to pick your brain on this because this is another thing that I just think about. I also am annoyed by some of the stuff. I had to do an HR training the other week that was like for a child. And the way that they talk to you, it's condescending.
And all the situations they put you in, it's like, what if an Asian person in the office and a white person had a disagreement? It's like, why are we doing all that? So there's some of the stuff that is stupid.
We can say the P word on the Bullock podcast again. That's nice. He was anonymous.
Yeah. I said this during the first Trump term. I was like, why are we letting Kellyanne shit talk Bannon anonymously behind the scenes? Like that's not serving anything. Like if there's a whistleblower, sure. If there's somebody that's like leaking you something that they're not supposed to, sure. But like trash talking, you know, saying, oh yeah, I get to say retard now. I'm like, okay then.
All right. If you can, then let's say it. What bank are you at again? Let's hear it. And by the way, I think you were probably saying it before if you're saying it now.
We'll see how it goes. So anyway, I wanted to set the table with that because I'm saying I concur that there are some annoying things about the post, the shift, right? Maybe there was overstepping. Maybe some of the stuff was silly. But if you're making a risk assessment, these CEOs are at the top of their game. And their job every day is risk reward. How do I make money? How do I mitigate risk?
It is astonishing to me that none of them Looked at Donald Trump and we're like, okay, well, the reward is I won't have to do diversity interviews again, I guess, or people will come back into the office. But the risk is going to be, who knows, 25% tariff that tanks the economy. Who knows what this guy could do? He's unpredictable. He's chaotic.
But they didn't oppose him either, really.
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