Stephanie Ruhle
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6 series
first heard Dec 2024
last heard 12 Jun
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And so but I've made friends with my guy downstairs and he starts ranting to me about the tick tock thing and the nine dollar congestion fee. He comes in from upstate. He's like, I got to pay the nine bucks now. I'm an hourly worker. He's like, maybe Trump's going to fix that for me. Like he fixed the TikTok thing.
So this guy says to me, whatever you think about the congestion fee and the student loan bailout and the TikTok ban, because I'm on two of those three. I'm on the Democratic side of the actual policy. But you also have to think about how people interact with stuff and how it engages with their lives. And they're so bad at talking about it and thinking about gimmicks that actually help people.
And I think that you've seen this on all of this stuff. You mentioned this AI thing. They're doing some regulation to protect people, but they're not messaging about it, so they get no credit for it. But they do get backlashes.
among all the rich guys that like are now supporting donald trump because they want unregulated ai it's just time and again you find yourself in a political sour spot where you're trying to do the right thing but like not finding a way to talk about it that so that people realize you're helping them and like i just think that is fundamentally their biggest challenge
I totally agree. And it's hard to find Democrats right there who are out there who, like, can let it rip. And it's like there needs to be a deprogramming class. We can host a deprogramming seminar. We're not doing DEI seminars anymore, so we can maybe do talking, like talking like a human deprogramming seminar.
I'm not even advocating that they change positions on any of these things. It's like, but find things that resonate with people, right? Find gimmicks. That is politics. Unfortunately, that's politics. It might feel crass or whatever. And talk about it like normal people. It's hard to think about something that people can grab onto. They're like, oh, I'm excited that the Dems are pushing this.
Okay, here's what could happen for them, though. It could work out in their favor. Donald Trump could fuck everything up. And that could end up being what people grab onto. And I just want to go back to what you were talking about earlier about crypto. I think that there are a lot of people, a lot of people listen to this podcast, that if you're not in the crypto world, it's hard to understand.
Right. And so as soon as you start hearing the words, they talk about the exchanges and all this, you're like, whatever. Okay. Blockchain. But here's the thing. They have essentially... said that crypto is going to be unregulated. They've got rid of Gary Gensler. AI is unregulated.
You bring in this new group, these pump and dump schemes where people create fake coins that have no actual value like Trump did. Insiders put a bunch of money in. They try to get regular rubes to put the money in. Stock goes up. They make a lot of money. Stock crashes. Real people lose their money. Womp womp.
I think that that is going to be de facto legal during the next four years because they're not going to regulate it.
Yeah, or if it gets tied in, and this is what I wanted to ask you about, any of your old Deutsche Bank pals are thinking about it. To me, it feels like some of the banks are going to get exposed for this, right? Because one of the regulations that the Biden administration was trying to put in was like,
creating some rules kind of like they did in Dodd-Frank that separates the risky investments out from whatever, the stable mortgages, et cetera. That feels like that's going to end now.
Yeah. And this is broadly about Trump. Who knows? And it's like we might have got through that first four years if it wasn't for the pandemic. And that first three years, he kind of bungled his way through.
Sometimes we like to, in America, we like to treat our presidents as if they're omniscient and all good things that happen in the world are their credit and all bad things that happen in the world are their fault. But sometimes it's just luck. You're in there. Bill Clinton Clinton was in there at kind of a good time for the economy, and it worked out. He also did some smart things, right?
But like, sometimes it's just luck. Sometimes you have bad luck. And so maybe Trump will have good luck.
Yeah, there is also a potential crash. I mean, the types of studies you're talking about, we haven't had a recession in a while. The tariffs are unpredictable, what the impact is going to be. This exposure on crypto is unpredictable. Imagine if FTX had been more tied. At that time, FTX was pretty separate.
But if FTX was tied more broadly into the broader financial system, that could have been a massive crisis that hurt regular people, not just people that got screwed over by Sam Brankman Freed. and got in on his drift.
It's like all of these people that are going into the, Andreessen and Sachs, and all these people that are going into the White House now with a mandate that like, we're going to deregulate, we're getting the government out of AI. They all got bailed out by the Biden government.
Don't think about how bad the actual Great Recession was.
Now you're talking about 1999 in suburban Denver. All right. I got to get on Scotty Besant before I lose you. So he testifies. He's going to be confirmed. He is. Besant. I'm mispronouncing his name. I got to get it right.
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