Stephen Glover
Appearances
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The background behind him is like, you know, the buildings or whatever, like kind of like a nice view.
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Yeah, like a green screen.
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But the way, like, he's, like, sitting, kind of, and, like, spinning in his chair, it makes him look like an evil villain, like, kind of, you know? And because, like, Dan and Bomani are kind of, like, you know, here's 21 Savage, like, kind of talking to him. It's, like, a little bit, like, they're a little bit out of their element.
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It kind of feels like they're scared of him because he's, like, a supervillain. So it's just a thing that immediately kind of became, like, a meme.
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If you watch Dragon Ball Z.
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He really does. It was funny. I remember that guy specifically was kind of like, Like an actor who's like there, like doing a role. He has no idea of like the context of what we're doing. That was also what's funny. You saw me having to explain to you what this is.
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This is the hardest part about creating anything. You know, it starts off as an idea to you. So you have to translate this into the real world to other people.
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We had to do just enough to be like, it's not you guys, you know? And the old man in between them. I remember that day specifically. We were kind of behind. So you just got to... Give them the fastest things. I didn't give them the whole Coolio speech. I didn't have time. We were moving fast.
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You look back, and it's, like, lucky that you kind of made it. Like, somebody said something. The other day about like thinking about the fact that you're here is like all these people behind you like survived, you know? And it's like, that is kind of crazy when you think about it. There was probably somebody down the line, one of my ancestors who had a similar experience.
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That's how you know it's a good prank, when people are sad at the end.
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But that's the thing. You already know what this movie is. Yeah, that's why it works so good, you know? If they're like, we're making the 21 Savage movie, like, you already know what the highlights are and how Hollywood is going to twist that.
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Have you ever seen Coolio's video? Have you ever seen the Biggie movie that came out a couple years ago? I saw it in theaters.
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What cracks me up about that movie is, I think there's like a catchphrase in it.
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That Biggie is saying, like, over and over again in the movie, where you're like, there's no way Biggie ever said that, right? Like... I don't think he's ever said that.
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Professional New Yorker.
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Yeah, exactly. In the most New York way possible.
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No, Ibra is like a real artist.
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It was probably season three. of Atlanta. This is the flamethrower episode of season three.
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Dangerous Minds: How Stephen Glover Baffled Hollywood
He got like super drunk and almost got kicked by like a horse. He just like barely missed. He's like, whoa, that was close. Like you're just barely making it over and over again.
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Who's black? We had wanted it to be Steve Harvey. And I think Steve... Steve Harvey seemed like he was into it, like he wanted to do it, and then he kind of, I don't know, at the last moment, dropped out. He might have been... You think he read the script? I don't even... I don't know. Actually, did he ever get the script? Maybe that was it. He read it and was like, uh-oh.
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I was going to say, I think he was shooting Family Feud at the time. I think he was like... shooting Family Feud in Africa or something at the time. That might have been why.
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I should have made you ask Steve Harvey why he didn't do our episode.
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Trying to get people in Atlanta, it's like, That's pretty much what it was. You would just kind of be trying to work your network of like, hey, does anybody know Liam Neeson?
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Once again, kind of towing this line of like realness and like... The strange that we love, you know?
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Yeah. No, I mean, you know. So let's just sit in that for a second.
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Yeah, no, I mean, I think... You know, shout out to Liam Neeson, because it was great for him to do this, to even, like, hear us out.
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Talking in the Atlanta writers' room, we were like, we were talking about it, we were just like, it's kind of funny because he's doing the thing that we kind of want him to do, you know, is being honest and, like, telling these, like, this real thing, you know, and it's like, yeah, it might be uncomfortable, but it's like, this is the truth, and, like,
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we're all better for it and like he should be like applauded but of course nobody the headline is just you know taking him down which we just thought was funny of like we always joke like you know you go to like a restaurant you accidentally like
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eat somebody else's food you get the wrong order and like a white guy that like that's enough to push him over the edge to racism he's like i hate all black people now you know all he has to do is have one bad interaction with a black person and then you might uh quote go out deliberately into black areas in the city looking to be set upon so i could unleash physical violence
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I mean, not to spoil the episode.
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I'll do it. What are you doing?
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Yeah, you don't need to see the race. But it's like, how much of the race do you need to show? It's like, just him getting a jump on Michael Vick is enough to make you laugh. And like, oh, maybe he's actually going to do this, you know?
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obviously like in in in writing it's show don't tell this is the inversion of that it's don't show either like don't show and don't tell it's kind of like uh like horror movies you know it's like the less you show sometimes it's like the better you know let people's imagination work a little bit you know um i mean donald always had a philosophy on the show too just like
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We don't need to explain everything to the audience. We don't need to, like, hold their hand through everything. Like, they're going to get it. You know, TV sometimes, you're, like, too worried about, like, explaining everything. You know, it's like, I got to bring a dangerous mind script.
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I remember me and one of the other writers on the show, Jamal, a.k.a. Swank. I remember we went to ComplexCon one year out here in L.A. And you go into the bathroom and it's like, A hundred dice games going on, like, full Monty. It's like a Star Wars casino in the back. And that's what's kind of, like, funny about, like, Atlanta. Like, you know, the strip club or, like, the parking lot even.
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I gotta say, after winning the second one, I'm jaded already. This town's not that great. Everybody here thinks they're so hot. My agent took me to Dan Tanner's. Awful. Nah, I gotta thank my agents at WME. Tom, I love you, man. I gotta thank my lawyer, Lev, in the house. Lev Ginsburg. Y'all know him. For taking me to a real restaurant.
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It's like there's, like, a million things, like, going on, other side hustles. Side adventures happening all throughout this place. It's like a pool game going on over here for thousands of dollars. It's just this idea that Michael Vick could raise money whenever he wants. Just by raising drunk people. Which, to be fair, is a pretty great thing.
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I mean, if I was in Atlanta and Michael Vick was in a parking lot and people were raising him, I would definitely be interested.
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that's like that's a complex youtube franchise actually speaking of which man we should talk to michael vick and see how if he wants to race people he interviews people like they're like stretching he's like kind of like all right so like uh what's the movie about like they're both starting flying and he races them he's like racing like you have to answer while you're racing him
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it's like long distance like they gotta race him for like a mile that's the equalizer with michael vick if you can run for a long time you know that's how you beat him what was the the pitch to michael vick was that a hard you remember if it was a hard ask if he got it immediately if he was like yeah i'll do that i think he was pretty on board he was actually like Sure, yeah, that sounds cool.
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I remember he was into it and fine. I mean, with that shot in particular, I'm like, that's just like a perfect kind of picture of doing comedy, especially too, of like... The script, whatever's in the script there, it was not what it was there. You know what I mean? It's like, you got to like find it. You got to find the comedic timing. Sometimes that's there. Sometimes it's in the editing.
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I realized that too, like first season. People would read scripts and they would be like, what is this? You know, kind of like, what are we doing?
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Yeah, exactly. Wait, it's cool. It's cool. This is me. This is the real Justin. It was always funny with the Justin Bieber episode. I remember we literally sent it to FX, the script, and they were like, Are we going to be able to get Justin Bieber? Like that was like the kind of the first ask, because that's that's how hard it was for them to understand what was going on.
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They're like, so Donald's going to get Justin Bieber, right? Because we're not. We can't do that, you know.
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In some ways, it's like, yeah, it would be hard to get it made. But at the same time, I think people are just as thirsty for this type of thing. So in some ways, the climate is like perfect for it, you know?
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I'm taking down a lot of people. I'm sorry.
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have enough of it even as we're starving for it even when people are asking for it the timing's got to be right you got to be able to like find a way to cut through i think our show was able to cut through and like in an age where everybody's also like look at me i'll do anything to cut through it's like how do you subvert that it's like well you just be good i guess
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You definitely should, you know? I mean, it's like, I'll go to the, like, farmer's market, very LA sort of thing, you know? And there's like this bread-like place that's there, just kind of like French bakery that comes out there. And all the bread is like, every time you come, most of it's gone. Because I guess people are coming at like 6 in the morning to get this bread or whatever.
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You want to be like, there's no way this is...
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and croissant is that good or whatever and then you like get one you get like something there you're like oh this actually is pretty good and you're like yeah you know like you said betting on the people who know what they're doing you could you could think like man i'll just go to vons and get a croissant but it's like you're gonna pay for that no and by the way what you need
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Man, maybe we'll just update Dangerous Minds for people. I'm thinking Lando. The Lando movies. It's kind of like Dangerous Minds. What if Lando was Michelle Pfeiffer? There's a space school. In Cloud City. There's a lot of these inner Cloud City aliens. They got to pass this test. But they don't believe in themselves enough. They got a lot of issues with their alien home life.
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We'll pitch that to Disney.
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There's always one we talk about where we wanted to do a trailer for 56 Nights, the future, like, mixtape.
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like a movie was coming out, basically, like about the future's life story. Like, just the idea of Like, if you know the 56 Nights kind of story. Well, please, for people who don't know 56 Nights, refresh our memory. So, Future's DJ and friend, DJ Esco, well, I guess they were in, like, Dubai, ends up getting, like, detained by maybe, like, customs or whoever there.
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And he's put in jail, and he has all of Future's music, I guess, on his phone. hard drive that's also confiscated. So Future is without his DJ, and he also doesn't have any of his songs that he's worked on. So the legend is he had to start working from scratch.
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Yeah, because Esco is locked up. And there's no telling when he's getting out. He did eventually get out after 56 nights, hence the name.
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Night 55, they almost got a new DJ.
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The mixtape that came out and the subsequent run of music. Future had, supposedly. It was inspired by having to start over again, which is kind of funny. It's funny that rappers all have this kind of same like, Christ-like story. We would, like, make, like, a fake movie trailer for that, but we never got to do it.
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I think that's a good way to put it. It's like highbrow and lowbrow. I think that best describes the kind of comedy taste. Like even you, like me, Donald, it's like, you know, it's like The Simpsons. That's why we get along. It's like... We can make a joke about Mark Twain. We can make a joke about that.
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That's what people want. You got to mix the high and the low. You got to mix the candy with the vegetables.
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Like, oh my goodness, like the police are waiting outside.
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Just enough so that he couldn't sue us.
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Pretty much. That could be anybody.
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Did I say that? I think I meant that was Stephen A. Smith.
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The way we would explain it to somebody is like, there was a video back in the day for Coolio, for Gangster's Paradise. A lot of movies had the soundtrack song that also had a video. And they splice in scenes.
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Yeah. Michelle Pfeiffer actually is in the video. She does the backwards chair.
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Irresponsible, man. When I was like, When I first came into college, I got super drunk, like with my friends. Is it Georgia Tech? Yeah. There was like a club next to it that we like went to. By the time I stepped in there, I was just wasted just from like pre-gaming. And they literally threw me out. They were like, this kid is like a liability.
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Is the blueprint for this.
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I like how you're like, explain this to people. I'm like, have you seen Gangster's Paradise? If you're like, no. I'm like, okay, there's absolutely no way to explain this. Which is pretty much how it was. You try to explain it to somebody, they're like, what? And you're like, all right, well.
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It's always a funny joke to us of just playing something so, like, straight or close to it that it's, then for a second, you're like, wait a second, is this real? To us, that's always just funny. And it's a lot harder to do than... I would have originally thought to make it, to really get close. I mean, like the Goofy-like episode of Atlanta, the Goofy documentary.
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So Gangster's Paradise, right? No, it's just basically a documentary about,
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We just play it so close. Like the belief is that a goofy movie is inherently a black movie. It was just this idea of like, what if it was actually made by a black guy who managed to get in charge for like, You know, just long enough to make this movie that's the blackest movie of all time. We all voted for this guy named Tom Washington.
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So making this documentary that feels really real, to the point where I'm like, yeah, you know, it kind of does feel like that's the truth, you know?
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He's a part of the culture, whether he likes it or not.
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My friends were like, they like picked me up like jazz from Fresh Prince. like, threw me out the club. And then my friends brought me back to my dorm, and then, like, my RA, like, saw them put me in there. And he was like, hey, what's going on? And they just, like, ran and left me. It makes you scared for, like, the future and your own kids a little bit, because you're like, oh, man.
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Yeah, it's like sometimes you're just in the right place at the right time. You know what I mean? Sometimes the universe comes for you. And it was like, he had no idea 21 Savage was going to be such a huge thing.