We're starving for things that make us think and make us laugh. And so we welcome back the multi-hyphenate co-creator of Atlanta, Stephen Glover, who takes Pablo on a behind-the-scenes Hollywood tour in which we encounter Liam Neeson, Goofy, Coolio and Dan Le Batard. Not to mention the bizarre Atlanta cameos that worked out (from Black Justin Bieber to the time Stephen's older brother, Donald Glover, raced Michael Vick) and the ones that almost did (from Steve Harvey to Stephen A. Smith). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What is the premise of the podcast?
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When we got to know each other, Steve Glover, you came in with a lot of stories that I didn't know about, about s*** you had done. I'm not here to confront you over whether you had ever driven a car under the influence.
Like, oh my goodness, like the police are waiting outside.
Do you have a power ranking in your mind of like, young Steve?
Irresponsible, man. When I was like, When I first came into college, I got super drunk, like with my friends. Is it Georgia Tech? Yeah. There was like a club next to it that we like went to. By the time I stepped in there, I was just wasted just from like pre-gaming. And they literally threw me out. They were like, this kid is like a liability.
My friends were like, they like picked me up like jazz from Fresh Prince. like, threw me out the club. And then my friends brought me back to my dorm, and then, like, my RA, like, saw them put me in there. And he was like, hey, what's going on? And they just, like, ran and left me. It makes you scared for, like, the future and your own kids a little bit, because you're like, oh, man.
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Chapter 2: What stories does Stephen Glover share about his past?
Just enough so that he couldn't sue us.
You know?
Pretty much. That could be anybody.
Except for the part where you said it's him two minutes ago.
Did I say that? I think I meant that was Stephen A. Smith.
The investigation that I went through on like, so how is it that Dan Levitard and Bomani Jones, it turns out, were both depicted in the trailer. How would you describe what I'm talking about? What that project was for people, again, who did not get to consume it at the time?
The way we would explain it to somebody is like, there was a video back in the day for Coolio, for Gangster's Paradise. A lot of movies had the soundtrack song that also had a video. And they splice in scenes.
Where the musician is also in the movie.
Yeah. Michelle Pfeiffer actually is in the video. She does the backwards chair.
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Chapter 3: How did Stephen and Donald Glover influence meme culture?
Yeah, you don't need to see the race. But it's like, how much of the race do you need to show? It's like, just him getting a jump on Michael Vick is enough to make you laugh. And like, oh, maybe he's actually going to do this, you know?
And then... the car and there is no music it is dead silent for several seconds and you don't even know the outcome except it's now obvious what the outcome is and then she says it's michael vick which is the truth you know that's what's so funny too it's such a great economy of showing and i mean in this case
obviously like in in in writing it's show don't tell this is the inversion of that it's don't show either like don't show and don't tell it's kind of like uh like horror movies you know it's like the less you show sometimes it's like the better you know let people's imagination work a little bit you know um i mean donald always had a philosophy on the show too just like
We don't need to explain everything to the audience. We don't need to, like, hold their hand through everything. Like, they're going to get it. You know, TV sometimes, you're, like, too worried about, like, explaining everything. You know, it's like, I got to bring a dangerous mind script.
Exactly.
Michael Vick, man. An Atlanta legend. Can you take us inside the origin of that scene? Do you remember how it originated?
I remember me and one of the other writers on the show, Jamal, a.k.a. Swank. I remember we went to ComplexCon one year out here in L.A. And you go into the bathroom and it's like, A hundred dice games going on, like, full Monty. It's like a Star Wars casino in the back. And that's what's kind of, like, funny about, like, Atlanta. Like, you know, the strip club or, like, the parking lot even.
It's like there's, like, a million things, like, going on, other side hustles. Side adventures happening all throughout this place. It's like a pool game going on over here for thousands of dollars. It's just this idea that Michael Vick could raise money whenever he wants. Just by raising drunk people. Which, to be fair, is a pretty great thing.
I mean, if I was in Atlanta and Michael Vick was in a parking lot and people were raising him, I would definitely be interested.
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Chapter 4: What is the significance of the Atlanta TV show?
You definitely should, you know? I mean, it's like, I'll go to the, like, farmer's market, very LA sort of thing, you know? And there's like this bread-like place that's there, just kind of like French bakery that comes out there. And all the bread is like, every time you come, most of it's gone. Because I guess people are coming at like 6 in the morning to get this bread or whatever.
You want to be like, there's no way this is...
and croissant is that good or whatever and then you like get one you get like something there you're like oh this actually is pretty good and you're like yeah you know like you said betting on the people who know what they're doing you could you could think like man i'll just go to vons and get a croissant but it's like you're gonna pay for that no and by the way what you need
are people who have maybe the ability to communicate and then teach this to younger people, even if they may seem like a strange person to listen to, which does remind me of the movie Dangerous Minds.
Man, maybe we'll just update Dangerous Minds for people. I'm thinking Lando. The Lando movies. It's kind of like Dangerous Minds. What if Lando was Michelle Pfeiffer? There's a space school. In Cloud City. There's a lot of these inner Cloud City aliens. They got to pass this test. But they don't believe in themselves enough. They got a lot of issues with their alien home life.
We'll pitch that to Disney.
This has been Pablo Torre Finds Out, a Meadowlark Media production. And I'll talk to you next time.
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