Stephen Jones

And with Mark, it was a sort of fairly similar situation.

And Katie Grand came down and got me.

I went back up and then Mark was being sort of extraordinarily polite.

Saying, Stephen, would it be okay if...

could you do a little change?

And I just thought, no, Mark, I prefer you being like you are, and really direct and powerful and completely magical too.

But fortunately, things normally go right.

They don't go wrong.

continued to make hats for almost 50 years now.

I think that's the most extreme thing.

Longevity.

I don't know, the most extreme thing that I've experienced.

And I think the making of the armour.

I mean, it was helmets and armour and body parts.

That was... Because slightly I was out of my comfort zone too.

I think...

The most dangerous hat I've ever made was actually worn by Jade Parfit.

There's a company called Bassone Brook, and I made this hat which had dry ice in it.

And I remember pouring, putting in the solid nitrogen inside a flap in her hat, fully aware that, you know, if I dropped it on her, it would have burnt her terribly.

Oh, my God.