Stephen Jones

Actually, thank you guys about the activism, but Vivian was really all about the clothes.

Do you remember that?

And she said, I get up in the morning and I'm, I can't remember, she said, this dumpy person.

And then I put on Vivian and I'm this extraordinary person and an actress and successful.

And that was, I thought that was a wonderful thing.

thing about fashion and all the meanings and the politics and everything behind it because it is to maybe if it

is a T-shirt printed with a peace sign.

Maybe that is going to make you feel fabulous as well.

But fashion is so sort of transformative.

It's such a point of view.

But what, back to your question, how do I express?

Yeah.

You know, clothing is a banner, but on your body.

Yes, yes.

You know, it's about making a statement, but belonging.

Yeah.

Bella, I could talk to you about passion for hours.

Oh, my God.

Well, I started my story with Thierry starts with us, Dean and I are.

I went to see Azzedine and before he had a company and I showed him some hats and he said, well, you know, I love your hats, but...