Stephen Means

And this, it is, it is an interesting part of this conversation that like, as an Ohio for Ohio state fans for the Ohio state offense, like you want to see other receivers develop, but if they don't, then you might just have to throw the graphic up, Doug, put the graphic up.

It's like, Oh no, are the receivers didn't develop.

What are we going to do?

Oh, we're going to do that.

Okay.

We're good.

For the podcast listeners, Jeremiah Smith is on the screen again.

Andrew and Stephen, what have both you guys been talking about?

He has three games in his career of more than 150 receiving yards.

His top two games in receiving yards against number one Oregon in the Rose Bowl.

And against Miami last year, like he has his biggest games when they need him the most.

So the idea of there are going to be more opportunities to need him is like, oh, OK, that actually could be quite like a real thing here.

So we have we have more questions along these lines.

We'll get to number four.

We'll start with me.

Jeremiah Smith is tied for seventh in Heisman odds at 13-1.

Arch Manning and C.J.

Carr, 8-1.

Trinidad Chambliss, 10-1.

Julian Say and Josh Hoover, Dante Moore, the Big Ten quarterback trifecta, at 12-1.