Stephen Pound

And certainly on the island of Ireland, there should be a great grave concern about the fact that the reform are completely opposed to any integration further of European customs rules, which are crucial for the island of Ireland.

Also, their attitude is pretty brutal, in all honesty.

at the moment what's going to happen i think as the dust of battle clears and you know maybe the bodies are dragged from the battlefield people are going to raise their eyes from the potholes in the street and look at the bigger picture the global picture and when you look at the situation in ukraine you know that the war in iran the united states

I don't think anyone in this country believes that there's a better person to be at the helm of the good ship, United Kingdom.

Well, you know, the old thing, you know, keep a hold of nurse for fear of finding something worse.

I mean, it's all very well defenestrating somebody.

You've got to see who fills the vacuum, who fills the gap.

And at the moment, we're in a period, clearly, and you know more than most people, in a period of absolute global insecurity and fear and danger.

There's the possibility of a huge market, a global market crash coming down the hill pretty fast at the present time.

The situation in Iran and obviously Hormuz that you've spoken about is getting worse and worse.

Now,

To change horses in midstream at the moment would be fatal.

It would be lethal, not just for the economy, but I think for our position in the world and the way we're finally working with our European partners, the European brothers and sisters, including in Dublin particularly.

I have to say, your metaphors are causing a certain amount of brain fog with me.

No, it's a good.

Yeah, I think in each one of those cases, I can discuss each one of them individually.

And honestly, I just don't see any one of those people stepping up to the plate at the present time in terms of national negotiations.

Look what Keir's been doing, not just with the European Union, but with the European political groupings.

The credibility that he has with people like Mark Carney in Canada, who is becoming an increasingly important figure.

His relationship with the Taoiseach, the relationship he has with other leading European parliamentarians and people who actually want to have some stability and, please God, some peace in the world.