Stephen Wunker
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430 appearances
5 recordings
1 series
first heard Mar 2026
last heard 6 Mar
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There might be a few things you can do with AI, but it's certainly not ready to get the full potential until you have those those predicates in place.
Thanks for having me.
So look, I've been in companies, I've been in startups and large enterprises where we had to create things that were new and had to do it really quickly.
I've understood for quite some time that the way an organization is set up can be at least as determinative of the output.
as the underlying concept.
So
In my last book, The Innovative Leader, we looked at how organizations can operate in order to be more innovative, not just to create innovation, but in terms of their operations.
In this book, we really wanted to bring AI through that lens to figure out how do organizations make the most of technology like AI.
What we realized very quickly is that it's, as you said, Jordan, it's not the technology itself.
The technology is already quite good and it's getting a lot better every year.
The organizations are changing a lot more slowly than the technology is.
So we were trying to bridge that gap.
So here's some real company data from Johnson and Johnson.
J and J recently tallied up the number of pilots for AI that they had going on in the organization.
And they had
At least nine hundred.
There were certainly probably more, but there were at least nine hundred that the folks at corporate could figure out were going on.
And then they tried to calculate the economic value that was being created by those pilots.
Fifteen percent of the nine hundred were responsible for about eighty-five percent of the total economic value.
So what you have is a lot of this magic AI dust that gets sprinkled on top of what people are already doing.
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