Steve Baxter

We can take some of that burden from you.

So there'll be a natural balance point there at some point, to be honest.

It's my personal feel.

having those basing and those allies in Europe is worth way too much for them to ignore it that's for sure it's yeah it's I mean and the US just what do they prop their defence budget up to 1.5 trillion yeah the request is 1.5 trillion so be nice if they get that I suppose I don't know how they're going to pay for it that's another matter there's no they're going to pay for it without free healthcare that's what it is I have a lot of debt as well yeah

So, the reason I say, they also have a homeland security as well.

Because that's like a coast guard in a little bits and pieces.

That's even outside that.

So, it's a lot more than that, to be quite blunt.

Thank you.

So, and a lot of our businesses also have a little bit of a law enforcement edge at the same time.

So, and that market over there is just like massive, to be truthful.

So, the thing about the US is, and I really want to start a cultural debate in Australia around the issues around Australian companies succeeding.

And you hear a lot about Australianism.

It's like Tall Poppy is one thing, for example, right?

And I see so many people use Tall Poppy as a crutch for failure and it annoys the living shit out of me.

It's like, well, you failed.

You got outsold.

That person's better than you.

You just can't shout Tall Poppy because your product's shit and theirs is better, right?

So just drop that crutch.