Steve Greenblatt

Well, it's probably a good place to end this.

I really enjoyed this conversation and thank you, Dan, for bringing this question to us.

And I'm sure that in the future, you'll continue to bring such great questions and conversations to our audience.

And I hope that this helped to educate some of your listeners and viewers and readers as well.

Thank you, Dan.

And we look forward to having you back very soon.

James, any closing thoughts and also how can people reach you and continue some of these conversations?

So please reach out to James and reach out to me.

LinkedIn is a great place for me.

Steve Greenblatt is my handle typically.

But we really want to continue to engage with our audience.

And we recently had somebody reach out to us who was a guest on our show.

And we'd like to repeat that.

And we'd also like to continue to

have some of the discussions that need to be had around programming and make the audience, make the community of programmers out there feel supported.

So please reach out to us in any of the places as well as reach out to Dan because he is so great at building community and leading discussions.

So please connect with him.

If you are listening to this podcast, you can also view us on YouTube.

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I will also say that my company, Control Concepts, is a supporter of this podcast, and we build some of the...