Steve Tuck

You know what?

I'm, let me not get.

Which, unfortunately, is catnip to venture capitalists.

That is like, we do not need to raise.

And by the way, here's our quantitative model showing just how much we don't need to raise.

And also, we've got all this business traction.

So why would we raise?

I mean, that is basically an aphrodisiac for venture capitalists.

That's exactly right.

They know this, but the rest of the world doesn't know this.

So this is like, and like you, this is where they have to actually maximize their ownership to make their model work.

And there was a very funny moment when investors like, we have to talk about your capital needs.

And Steve's like, I think we've pretty definitively shown that we have no capital needs.

And there was a little bit of like friction.

And then Steve's like, I think you mean your ownership needs.

It's like, yes, yes, yes, my ownership needs.

Yes, thank you.

And it was just like, it was a good like conversation with your doctor.

You know, we can just like, look, I'm your doctor.

We can really just talk about it, frankly.