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Steven Bonnell (Destiny)

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

The issue that I run into is while you can find quotes from leaders, while you can find maybe desires expressed in diaries, I feel like it's hard to truly ever know if there would have been mass transfer in the face of Arab peace because I feel like every time there was a huge deal on the table that would have had a sizable Jewish and Arab population living together, the Arabs would reject it out of hand.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

The issue that I run into is while you can find quotes from leaders, while you can find maybe desires expressed in diaries, I feel like it's hard to truly ever know if there would have been mass transfer in the face of Arab peace because I feel like every time there was a huge deal on the table that would have had a sizable Jewish and Arab population living together, the Arabs would reject it out of hand.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

The issue that I run into is while you can find quotes from leaders, while you can find maybe desires expressed in diaries, I feel like it's hard to truly ever know if there would have been mass transfer in the face of Arab peace because I feel like every time there was a huge deal on the table that would have had a sizable Jewish and Arab population living together, the Arabs would reject it out of hand.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

So, for instance, when we say that transfer was inevitable, when we say that Zionists would have never accepted, you know, a sizable Arab population, how do you explain the acceptance of the 47 partition plan that would have had a huge Arab population living in the Jewish state?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

So, for instance, when we say that transfer was inevitable, when we say that Zionists would have never accepted, you know, a sizable Arab population, how do you explain the acceptance of the 47 partition plan that would have had a huge Arab population living in the Jewish state?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

So, for instance, when we say that transfer was inevitable, when we say that Zionists would have never accepted, you know, a sizable Arab population, how do you explain the acceptance of the 47 partition plan that would have had a huge Arab population living in the Jewish state?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

Is your contention that after the acceptance of that, after the establishment of that state, that Jews would have slowly started to expel all of these Arab citizens from their country? Or how do you explain that in Lusan, a couple years later, that Israel was willing to formally annex the Gaza Strip and make 200,000 or so people? those citizens.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

Is your contention that after the acceptance of that, after the establishment of that state, that Jews would have slowly started to expel all of these Arab citizens from their country? Or how do you explain that in Lusan, a couple years later, that Israel was willing to formally annex the Gaza Strip and make 200,000 or so people? those citizens.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

Is your contention that after the acceptance of that, after the establishment of that state, that Jews would have slowly started to expel all of these Arab citizens from their country? Or how do you explain that in Lusan, a couple years later, that Israel was willing to formally annex the Gaza Strip and make 200,000 or so people? those citizens.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

But I'm just curious, how do we get this idea of Zionism always means mass transfer when there were times, at least early on in the history of Israel and a little bit before it, where Israel would have accepted a state that would have had a massive Arab population in it? Yeah, is your idea that they would have just slowly expelled them afterwards? Is that question to me or Norm? Either one.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

But I'm just curious, how do we get this idea of Zionism always means mass transfer when there were times, at least early on in the history of Israel and a little bit before it, where Israel would have accepted a state that would have had a massive Arab population in it? Yeah, is your idea that they would have just slowly expelled them afterwards? Is that question to me or Norm? Either one.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

But I'm just curious, how do we get this idea of Zionism always means mass transfer when there were times, at least early on in the history of Israel and a little bit before it, where Israel would have accepted a state that would have had a massive Arab population in it? Yeah, is your idea that they would have just slowly expelled them afterwards? Is that question to me or Norm? Either one.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

I'm just curious for the incorporation of the answer, yeah.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

I'm just curious for the incorporation of the answer, yeah.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

I'm just curious for the incorporation of the answer, yeah.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

Yeah, but I didn't say it was central to the Zionist experimental experience. You're saying centrality. I never said it was central. I said it was there, the idea.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

Yeah, but I didn't say it was central to the Zionist experimental experience. You're saying centrality. I never said it was central. I said it was there, the idea.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

Yeah, but I didn't say it was central to the Zionist experimental experience. You're saying centrality. I never said it was central. I said it was there, the idea.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

Whereas Benny's saying it's a part of the,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#418 โ€“ Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

Whereas Benny's saying it's a part of the,