Steven Novella

They lie.

Well, yeah.

But the other, and as a skeptic, the other sort of huge red flag was, so they're at the CES or at this trade show.

and they have a mockup of one of their batteries, but they didn't have a battery.

They did not have a battery.

It was just an empty case.

It's like, yeah, this is what the case is going to look like.

So that is also a huge red flag.

So there was pretty much universal skepticism about this, right?

And most charitably, people were saying, well, all right, it's not inherently impossible.

You're not breaking any laws of physics, but where's the meat, right?

Show us.

Well, we'll take this seriously when you have a battery to actually show us, you know, put up or shut up kind of thing.

And the CEO was like, yes, it's coming.

And we're already putting it in motorcycles that will be shipping to consumers.

It's already happening.

So I was like, okay, show us.

Give us a battery to test.

And so this dragged out for a while.

But then eventually they did make some batteries available for independent testing.