Steven Rinella

And he's criticized, and people are like, well, yeah, you harpooned it.

You didn't catch it.

So then he goes out with rod and reel, and he goes out and catches one that I believe was in the 3,000-pound range.

And he felt as though he would be now the holder of the IGFA.

It would be the biggest fish ever caught on rod and reel would be this great white shark.

That's right.

But it wasn't.

So, so cables out.

As long as it has a tensile strength.

Oh, I see.

Okay.

I got you.

I'd never heard this.

See, that's funny because my understanding of the story was one of the problems.

There was several, but one of the problems as well is they were trading the rod back and forth.

Yeah.

But when you do that kind of stuff, like, so if you, if the record's,

Sorry, let me approach this a different way.

If you go look at, back to the Boone and Crockett parallel, there's an aspect of this that I feel like would be interesting to you guys.

The Boone and Crockett parallel would be that they're interested in what we call a deadhead.