Steven Sinofsky

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5,566 appearances 14 recordings 1 series first heard Feb 2025 last heard 5d ago

Steven Sinofsky’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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that you're not just building this throwaway code that's hard to do, but also everybody else's abstraction layer is rising.
So, you know, you don't need to design that piece of code.
Like, you know, if you're doing it for a phone, well, the phone's abstraction level has risen.
So you're not building a text control.
You're not building UI controls.
Whereas 20 years ago, step one of building a company was building all of those things.
And so there's a lot to how important this is in terms of what you're able to do.
Yeah, I...
And I think it's to your point about how hard... Look, my whole life was managing thousands of people, of engineers, to build things that couldn't be built anywhere else.
Like, it was... The moat to build an operating system, it was infinite.
Yeah.
And I think... You have to have one Cutler.
Is that the...
No, I get it.
No, but... He's brilliant.
But read the...
Read the Steve Jobs in Exile book because you really get a sense for building up.
In fact, of course, Next was famously just it took the code from mock at Carnegie Mellon and started from there.
We couldn't have done it from scratch completely.
But this whole idea of just how important it is to think through the domain specific and how you disrupt people because...
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