Steven Zuber

I love that.

It sounds fantastic, but man, it must have been, right?

Like that just comes through so well.

Speaking of, I guess, the investigative journey of tracking down these sources and stuff, everyone at some point wants to grapple with the question, where did we come from?

And, you know, there's there's various answers to various degrees of satisfaction.

I think then the road for a lot of people, especially in our circles, is like, well, something, something replicating molecule, throw in some time and you get people.

And that's that's an answer.

But it's this tackles that question from a different direction.

When people ask, where do we come from?

It didn't really articulate for me until I was reading these.

It's like it's not so much that I care like where people.

bipedal partially haired hominids came from, right?

It's like, where did I come from?

The conscious person, the entity that's asking this question.

And it's just, it's driving that more directly towards the core of that search that I think every human goes through.

What was it that drove you to think about this so much and give it so much consideration?

Have I lost you yet, or is this how we're doing?

No, we're doing good.

Once upon a time, I was a psychology major, so I recognized Francis Galton's name, and I think he was related to Charles Darwin.

Yeah, yeah.