Stuart Russell

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He said, well, we sort of have been warning you, but anyway, they got the message.

And then they followed a sort of very messy process that eventually led to an executive order, which was pretty weak.

It basically said, companies can voluntarily submit their systems to the government for testing 30 days beforehand.

public release.

And the executive order says explicitly, this is absolutely not a licensing regime.

It's absolutely not putting any obligatory hurdles in the way of American innovation, blah, blah, blah.

But then a couple of days later, Amazon tells the government, oh, we found some ways of jailbreaking mythos.

or Fable, which I guess is Fable is the sort of defanged version of Mythos.

And they said, oh, look, you know, we can jailbreak Fable and make it do some cybersecurity things.

And the government shuts down both Fable and Mythos.

So they put in effectively de facto licensing

architecture where they said, look, if it doesn't meet these standards of being safe, then we're shutting it down, right?

That's exactly what a licensing architecture is.

And just to be clear, licensing architectures exist for buildings, for food, for hairdressers,

uh, for, uh, airplanes, right?

We, you don't get in an airplane until it gets certified by the FAA.

You don't go in a building until it's been inspected for the building code, et cetera, et cetera.

So this is normal.

It's a great question.

I felt somewhat vindicated.

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