Susie Dent

I know you did Brewer's Phrase and Fable.

This is going to be as eminent.

I'm just trying to think of other eponyms.

No, I like it.

Very nice.

It's crazy.

Because your best friend then is modelling their mum so that you are surrounded.

You then model them.

I've not actually heard that phrase before.

I've not really heard that as a phrase.

I've just worked on a series called Secret Genius where there were so many women who were geniuses.

I know.

No, it's really interesting.

Well, primarily we wanted to find people who didn't know how brilliant they were.

And all their friends knew that they had something special, but they hadn't been validated at school or they bunked off school because they knew they were different, but felt embarrassed by it and that kind of thing.

So it was actually really lovely.

No, I think that would be the logical thing now.

That should be one of our criteria when we research.

And actually, it's very difficult to sort of have a hard and fast rule as to, you know, you fit this category and you fit this one.

And emotional intelligence now, I think, has also been really recognised, which is great.