Ta-Nehisi Coates

Sure.

thing that made it productive was not the debate it was a lot of other things too like you should be in pursuit of stories you should be in pursuit of news that you know moves people and grabs people's attention and when you are in in pursuit of takes i don't know yeah i think it's bad i don't think that's journalism period yeah tim can i say one last thing about cbs

I do want to say that one thing that really bothers me about this is there are people in this world who I guess were upset because somebody told them that they had to add, you know, one more black person to their writer's room or somebody, you know, questioned.

what an intimacy coordinator was doing on the set, or they had to be pulled into some sort of debate about using the wrong pronouns.

And then they decided to empower somebody who is currently destroying one of the jewels of journalism.

And I just think you got to do better.

You got to be more discerning about people.

Somebody is telling you something that is challenging.

Somebody is telling you something that is deeply informed and somebody that is bullshitting you.

You know, and maybe some people wanted to be bullshitted, but now we're all going to pay for it.

You know what I mean?

You wanted this era of anti-woke.

You got it.

But a lot of others of us are going to pay for it, too.

You know, we're not going to go down alone.

And it's distressing.

Thanks, Tim.

Thank you so much.

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