Tahlia Isaac
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Yeah.
Of course I don't want them to come out and do this to somebody else.
That's, yeah.
But we don't ask them.
We just make decisions and we just go, okay.
This is the decision that we're making because we think this is what victims want and there's never any consultation with the families.
So, you know, and what would, yeah, like, and Ken's so right, like, people will get out.
Yeah.
And you have every right to hate them for what they did.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
And want them to suffer and they are suffering.
Yeah.
You know, therapeutic services and smaller number prisons and open prisons.
Like these lockdowns and, you know, restricted movement, caged environments only seeks to make people feel like they're animals.
Yeah.
And obviously nutrition.
We know...
The thing is, Gary, is like we know what protective factors there are.
So protective factors is the factors that mean you're not going to commit another offense.