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Tamay Besiroglu

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
878 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

Like, for example, Edison spent a ton of time experimenting with, like, different filaments to be using the light bulb.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

Like, the basic idea is very simple.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

You make something hot and it glows.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

But then, like, what actually...

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

What filament actually works well for that in a product?

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

What is durable?

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

What has the highest ratio of light output versus heat so that you have less waste and it's more efficient?

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

And then even after you have the products, then your face is a problem.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

Well, I mean, it's like 1880 or something, and then US homes don't have electricity, so then nobody can use it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

So now you have to build power plants and build power lines to the houses so that people have electricity in their homes, so that they can actually use this new light bulb that you created.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

So he did that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

But then people presented it as if it's like, OK, he just came up with the idea.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

Like, it's a light bulb.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

Yeah, I mean, for what it's worth, if you look at the total surface area of the world, it might well be the case that the place that initially experiences this very fast growth is like a small percentage of the surface area of the world.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

Right.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

But I think that was the same for an industrial revolution.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

It was not different.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

Yeah, so I would say our idea is that it's going to be broader than that, but probably initially.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

So eventually it would be probably most of the world.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

But as I said, because of this heterogeneity, because I think some countries are going to be faster in adoption than others, maybe some cities will be more faster in adoption than others.