Tamay Besiroglu

Right, but he's imagining a separate thing called the AI economy.

Why would you imagine that?

That seems like a... I think it's probably downstream of his views about the software-only singularity, but again, those are views that we don't share.

Yeah.

And then it's something clearer.

Like, for example, people might have the intuition.

I brought this up before.

Like, the distinction between what is the minimum possible amount of build-out that would be necessary to get this feedback loop up and running and what would be the most efficient way to do it, which are not the same question.

But then people have this view that, oh, like, the most efficient thing, in principle, we can't do that because, like...

Okay, so I think that is like...

Eventually, you expect the AI systems to be driving most of the economy.

And I don't think that's a – like, unless there are some very strange coincidences where, like, humans are able to, like, somehow uplift themselves and, like –

able to become competitive with the AIs by stopping being biological humans or whatever, which seems very unlikely early on, then AI is just going to be much more powerful.

And I agree that in that world, if the AI is just somehow coordinated and decides, okay, we should just take over or something, just somehow coordinated to have that goal, then they could probably do it.

Okay.

But, okay, that's also probably true in our world.

Like, in our world, if the U.S.

wanted to invade Central Island, then probably they could do it.

I don't think anyone could stop them.

But, like, what does that actually mean?