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Tamay Besiroglu

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
878 total appearances

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Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

I mean, there is this dramatic power imbalance, but that doesn't mean, like, that doesn't tell you what's going to happen, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

Like, why doesn't the U.S.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

just, like, invade Guatemala or something?

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

Like, why don't they do that?

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

Seems like they could easily do it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

So it's deeper than that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

There's also the fact that if the...

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

AIs are going to be integrated into our economy.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

So basically they start out as like a small part of our economy or our workforce, and over time they grow and over time they might they become the vast majority of the actual sort of work power in the economy.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

But they are they are

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

growing in this existing framework where we have like norms and rules for better coordination and then undermining those things has a cost.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

So if getting the things that is making the humans sort of wealthier than they used to be before and more comfortable, like, yeah, like you would probably be better off if you could just take that from them.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

But the benefit to you if you already are getting almost all of the income in the economy will be fairly small.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

That's right.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

I mean, that's what they were initially doing.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

And then...

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

Whatever.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

I agree.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

So if the question is, if they have some totally different values and then they represent most of the economy, then would they take over?

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away โ€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

I still don't know because I'm not sure to what extent the class of all AI is a natural