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Tamay Besiroglu

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878 total appearances

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Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

I mean, you need to, like that's the kind of thing I would be trying to do.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

Like, I would say that it's important to... Like, in a lot of cases and a lot of situations, it's much more important to be...

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

maintain flexibility and the ability to adapt to new circumstances, new information than it is to get a specific plan that's going to be correct and that's going to be very detailed and has a lot of specific policy recommendations and things that you should do.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

So that's actually also the thing that I would recommend.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

If I want to make the

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

make the transition to AI in this period of explosive growth go better.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

I would just prefer it if we, in general, had higher quality institutions.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

But I am much less bullish on someone sitting down today and working out, okay, what will this intelligence explosion or explosive growth be like?

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

What should we do?

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

I think plans that you work out today are not going to be that useful when the events are actually occurring because you're going to learn so much stuff

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

that you're going to update on so many questions that these plans are just going to become obsolete.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

That's right.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

So for one example, I think I might have mentioned this off the record at some point, but

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

before the Second World War happened, people were, obviously people saw that there were all these new technologies, like tanks and airplanes and so on, which were now, like they exist in World War I, but in a much more primitive setting.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

So they were wondering what is gonna be the impact of these technologies now that we have them in much greater scale.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

And the British government had estimates of how many casualties there will be from aerial bombardment in the first few weeks of the Second World War.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

And they expected hundreds of thousands of casualties, basically, in like two weeks, three weeks after the war begins.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

So the idea was that air bombing is...

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

basically this unstoppable force.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

All the major urban centers are going to get bombed.