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Tamay Besiroglu

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878 total appearances

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Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

Like it's already enough to have very strong deterrence.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

So maybe even that lead, a technological lead, is not sufficient so that you would feel comfortable going to war.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

Yeah.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

I mean, for what it's worth, I do think it's possible if you have it just happen in a few countries which are relatively large and have enough land or something.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

Like those countries could just – like they would be starting from a lower base compared to the rest of the world.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

So they would need to catch up to some extent.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

So like if they are just going to sort of grow internally and they're not going to depend on the external supply chains.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

But like that doesn't seem like something that's impossible to me.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

Some countries could do it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

It would just be like more difficult.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

But in this setting –

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

If some countries have like a significant policy advantage over the rest of the world and they start growing first and then they won't necessarily have a way to get other countries to adopt their norms and culture.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

So in that case, it might be more efficient for them to do the growth locally, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

So that's why I was saying the...

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

growth differentials will probably be determined by regulatory jurisdiction boundaries more than anything else.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

I'm not saying, say, the U.S.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

by itself, if it had AI, but it couldn't get the rest of the world to adopt AI.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

I think that would still be sufficient for explosive growth.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

I don't even know if financial services can be important if you want to scale very big projects very quickly.

Dwarkesh Podcast
AGI is Still 30 Years Away β€” Ege Erdil & Tamay Besiroglu

I think people already think China is a big deal.