Tara Stoinski

We haven't seen that many of these dominance transfers for one male to the other.

And we actually didn't get to observe that one because it happened 94, 95, which was right at the height of the genocide in Rwanda.

So we weren't in the forest or the teams weren't in the forest every day like we are normally.

So when they sort of came back and could observe the group, Cansby had taken over dominance.

But Pablo stayed in the group.

The two of them were very aligned.

And the support that they gave each other let this group grow to 65 animals, which an average gorilla family is 10 individuals.

So way, way bigger.

The biggest group of gorillas ever recorded anywhere.

And it's definitely come down in size since then.

But it just achieved all of these amazing records.

Yeah, because of this partnership.

In that area.

We call it the Virunga area.

So it's three countries, Congo, Rwanda, Uganda.

They were down to 250 animals.

It is.

There's 600 in that population, and then there's another population that at the time he was there actually wasn't being studied.

They're in Uganda, and there's 400.

So across the two, there's 1,000, but where he was, it's gone from 250 to 600, which is great, but it's taken 40-plus years to do that.