Taylor Lorenz
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2,278 appearances
18 recordings
9 series
first heard Dec 2024
last heard 10 Jul
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There's something about this that I appreciate in the sense that I'm like, okay. That's fine. This is a weird creative thing and you want to sail down the thing with chickens. That's fine. That's creative. We all do creative things to feed our souls.
The problem is when you give someone this enormous amount of power and money and sort of start to take what they have to say as intellectually rigorous or something. Do you know what I mean? Yeah.
Also, so much of Tumblr was just pseudo-intellectual nonsense. My own blog probably included.
First of all, I think people have a hard time if you've never been on it and probably didn't spend your formative years on it to remember that blogging and writing was the dominant form of expression on the internet at that time because you couldn't upload photos and So people were just writing and like, right. Like most people are not brilliant writers or thinkers. Right.
Like, and, and this was also the era of like, yeah, it was like pseudo intellectual of like, you know, it was very like book culture and like early kind of like Buzzfeed. Like I'm a reader, like fetishizing reading and being intellectual and like kind of being smart and, Because again, the best bloggers of that era, like the big time bloggers were smart, right?
You had to have something to say to succeed well. You had to be smart. You had to be interesting. You had to be intellectual. And so I just think like so much of Tumblr was that. And it was a lot of young people.
No matter how brilliant you are at like 20, you're not going to have the most like fully formed opinions because your brain is not developed and because you have literally almost no life experience. And so when you give someone like that a platform, I mean, I don't know, I've deleted
most traces of what i've written from those eras but like it was just sort of like encouraged right to like pseudo intellectualize and like and overanalyze your life or culture or whatever and i feel like that probably fed right into someone like her where it's like that's she's clearly that type of person already i pulled a few tweets from like the last few weeks grimes on twitter it is so monumentally embarrassing that i am finally getting into christianity because it's the only way i can quit vaping
This is like, you know, that tweet that's like, this must hit so hard if you're dumb. Yeah.
that's how i feel reading these i'm like what the hell sure what the hell sure i don't want to hate on her because i like these people like i maybe it's just i am predisposed to like i i think because like personally like and this is why i'm a journalist like i love like thinking of weird like alternatives or like i love listening to people like rant about their own weird theories about something like
if she was just doing this on Twitter and making her music, it would be totally fine. Like who cares? Twitter is for posting dumb stuff. Twitter is for venting your weird thoughts.
Like I think what we've seen and like why it's relevant is how this sort of like when she came into an enormous amount of money and power and influence and like suddenly like this person's sort of pseudo intellectual nonsense thoughts are now shaping potentially her
musk's policies or beliefs or whatever like she's given this this this political platform i just feel like i have to defend her because this is these are the kind of people i love being next to at parties yes girl like tell me your crazy theories i want to hear everything
The king of pseudo-intellectualism. He's like the final boss of pseudo-intellectualism.
The fact that Elon Musk continues to meet all of his women on Twitter or they work for him. Dark.
I don't think he can. I think that's why he has to slide into Twitter DMs because he cannot function IRL.
I think she was probably enthralled with him because here's this, like you said, his reputation at that point was still very high. People thought of him as this Tony Stark type figure, this brilliant tech guy, right? He's this amazing person building the future. He was an environmentalist. People were selling that back then, right? This is somebody that values technology.
Somebody invested in this new creative future. And yeah, I'm sure she saw so much in him. And I think, like you said, I think he probably saw... A woman that's willing to flatter him and, you know, feed his pseudo intellectual BS and his ego and ultimately sought to control her, which is what he seems to want to do to every woman he interacts with.
I don't think that even Elon realized how he would be radicalized at that point. And I, I, this is something that bothers me so much about Grimes discourse specifically on the internet is I just think that love is complicated and different people give each other different things. Because people will be like, well, how can you be in a relationship with somebody that you politically disagree with?
Or how can you be in a relationship with somebody that's like a bigot? As you mentioned, Kat, a lot of times these people don't start as bigots. If you knew they were a bigot, you wouldn't have gotten in that relationship, presumably. But sometimes you are with somebody and then you realize their beliefs have evolved. Or there are even people that I...
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