Te-Ping Chen

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373 appearances 7 recordings 1 series first heard Mar 2022 last heard Oct 2024

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It's a mix.
I would say absolutely there are companies that say this is great and American workers for too long have not taken the sick time that they really need.
That is good for them and it's good for their co-workers and they're good for the company.
There are also employers that have felt it is a drain on resources to have so many worker absences.
I have also spoken to companies who say, look, we have had to stump up with more budget to cover some of these jobs.
absences with additional staffing.
So it's a little bit of both depending on who you talk to.
Well, traditionally, employers and employees tended to think of sick time as something you take on your own behalf when you are sick yourself.
And in the past decade, we have seen many more states pass legislation saying that sick days need to also be usable for sick dependents, sick family members.
And we've, post-pandemic, seen many more employers also follow suit and say, yes, this is something that sick time should be used for.
And according to one
expert in the field that we spoke to, he estimated that more than 80% now of private employers with sick time do allow that kind of usage too.
So it really spans everything from your own kind of, maybe you've got the flu to maybe you have to take your kids to the doctor or they have some kind of seasonal illness to even
And there is inclement weather and some sort of emergency and there's a school closure and all sorts of categories of events that might not traditionally have been considered usable for a sick day are now much more part of that universe.
It just really shows how much the job market has flipped.
Up till pretty recently, we were talking about the great resignation and all of the bargaining power that workers had.
Well, during the pandemic, we had a lot of disruption, obviously, in the labor market.
And a lot of workers wound up sitting on the sidelines and companies really having to compete pretty fiercely in order to get folk through the door.
This also happened to coincide with the time that a lot of companies need to hire quickly ramp back up after lockdown.
The worst of the pandemic and these sorts of forces combining to really create a condition in which companies were doling out huge pay raises in order to sometimes poach workers or bring people off the sidelines.
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