Terry Gross

Andy Kroll, thank you so much for your research and thank you for being on our show.

I appreciate it.

Andy Kroll covers the Justice Department and the judiciary for ProPublica.

His article, Donald Trump's Deep State Wrecking Ball, is published in The New Yorker in collaboration with ProPublica.

Our interview was recorded yesterday.

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