Terry Schilling

Freak shows are freaks.

I don't think that's helpful language.

It doesn't help us understand each other.

But I definitely think that men who are seeking to compete in women's.

Sure, but I definitely think it's even more serious, right, than, you know, name-calling, that men who are seeking to compete in women's sports are engaging in really abusive, intimidating, and inappropriate behavior on many, many levels.

It totally violates Title IX.

And then going down to the level of minors, I think you are a feminist in spite of yourself, Steve, because, you know, no one I've heard yet

outside of a very small group of women, like Jennifer Say, the former, I think, Olympian athlete who's been very vocal about this, has expressed so well what the injustices are, as you just did, you know, again, in spite of your commitment to not being a feminist.

That's a very feminist set of empathic comments you made about the struggles of girls.

And you're a thousand percent correct.

It's girls who

from low-income neighborhoods, it's girls from the barrio, it's girls from middle-class, hard-working, working-class backgrounds, and this is their one shot.

They're not gonna come up with $60,000 a year

to, you know, pay, their families won't pay for that college education.

If they want a college education, it's going to be through that hard work, that effort, that grit, as you put it, of playing a sport and excelling.

And the minute you've got a guy in a dress or with a ponytail or whatever de minimis thing, you know, he thinks he needs to do to be called a girl competing.

There's the advantage gone, but it's deeper than that.

There's the meritocracy gone.

There's her sense of fairness gone.

It's a crushing of dreams.