Thomas Doherty

So that means that you're at the mercy of external forces.

So you're never like really... I have a really, really good friend, Josiah.

And he is a bit older.

And he doesn't look for happiness.

He just looks for peace.

And I think if you start looking for contentment and peace, it's like the paradox of life.

You search for happiness, you can't find it.

You stop searching, happiness is there.

I'm really into paradoxes of life right now.

What's another paradox of life?

Okay, I'm not that into paradoxes of life, evidently.

But there's a, I really, can someone look up paradoxes of life?

There's like major ones.

It's like when you stop looking for something, then it comes to you.

I like Joe Rogan there, that was cool.

Can you look up... Is that what he does?

Yeah, can you look up... Yeah, Jamie, that's it.

Yeah, that's a paradox.

Okay, I'll equate it to auditioning.

If you're like, really want a job, and you need a job, and you go into the room with the cast and directors, they will smell it off you instantly, the desperation.