Thomas Small

all summer.

The president is desperate that the World Cup in America and Canada and Mexico go without a hitch.

Eamon, my co-host, knows that the intelligence chatter is that the Iranian regime has under the surface definitely threatened to attack players, whatever, to have some kind of terrorist

campaign during the world cup to humiliate america i think donald trump is desperate for that not to happen given the kind of guy he is he comes from the world of entertainment he does not want his show to be spoiled i think he might be calculating that though it is catastrophic the world does adjust already the world is adjusting

um it will take some time there will be a global recession for sure it won't be easy but if the strait of hormuz remains for some time more or less within iran's sphere of influence devastating as that will be to the global economy in the short term to the regional gulf and arabian not just economies you know political economy in the long term nonetheless things might

contingencies will play a role.

Saudi Arabia is already trying to maximize the

its west coast along the Red Sea, perhaps that will really change things.

Syria is immediately gearing up to play a much more important regional hub role as supply lanes and trade routes shift in the face of this.

Obviously, the Fujairah port, which the UAE has on the other side of the Strait of Hormuz, will be

invested in more who knows um that's a long-winded answer to your question i mean it is it is we're in that place now where frankly nobody knows this is it's a sort of weird time to be paying attention to the middle east because many scenarios which

people like Richard and me for a long time regarded as worst case scenarios have happened.

So it's now they've happened and you think, oh, OK, what's what's what next?

It's hard to know.

I mean, I can't see a way out.

Donald Trump says he wants a deal.

Perhaps he will get that deal.

Some people say that deal will be obviously worse than the JCPOA deal that Obama's administration signed.

in which Donald Trump left in his first term.

Other people say, no, no, Donald Trump would never allow that to happen.