Thomas Winterton

Uh, it really became, how do you, how do you release this information?

And about the same time, um, and I'm, I want to make sure I get my dates here.

Right.

But, um,

The entire time we owned the ranch, one of the first things we had to do, there was a road that went right through the middle of the ranch that was a public road.

And when we bought it, the county notified Brandon that we couldn't lock the gate anymore.

It was a public road.

We had to let the public go across, which put a lot of panic through the team because it's like, how can you carry on an ongoing science project?

investigation.

If you've got tourists going through the middle of your laboratory.

And so I, you, I was able to go to the County and get that road vacated and shut down.

And, uh,

When I did that, it required public hearings, and Brandon, he didn't want this to stigmatize his business.

This whole paranormal world doesn't always mix well when you're talking about business professionals and real estate, and you're trying to sell a building to people, and they think you're a quack because you're chasing ghosts and goblins.

So Brandon was very –

Very adamant that people not know his identity.

So anytime we had to go public with something, we always did it through my name.

So I was the one that attended the public hearings.

I was the one that got the road vacated.

Brandon reached out and said, hey, release a few of these photos on the internet.