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Chapter 1: What is the significance of the Skinwalker Ranch Omnibus?
Hi everyone and welcome back to That UFO Podcast. As always, my name is Andy and this is the ever popular Omnibus show for you. And this is a very special one. It's a Skinwalker Ranch Omnibus Part 1. Now for me, this was a bit of an interesting one to listen back to and I did listen back to more of this and I probably ever have of some of the other Omnibus shows.
It takes me through the history of the podcast from June 2020 when it was one month old and um through to 2023 2024 so part one covers one of my very first interviews which was was with thomas winterton superintendent of the ranch and that was like nearly two hours long and i'll give you a quick story um ahead of that if you want to hear it you're going to hear it i'm going to tell you
I remember the night before that I'd recorded with Nick Pope and it was an awful interview and that was nothing against Nick Pope and purely down to the fact that the recording was terrible the connection was terrible I couldn't really hear him and I was really hoping at that time using Skype and being quite new to recording podcasts it would turn out okay and it didn't and genuinely after that recording with Nick Pope
I was tempted to quit the podcast and stop it altogether. No hyperbole there, genuinely. I was so annoyed at how the recording had turned out, thinking that was a big guest and I'd ruined it. Needless to say, I got back in the saddle the next night and had a two-hour interview with Thomas Winterton that I really, really enjoyed, and I think a lot of other folks did as well.
By that point, I'd done about 11, 12 shows, something like that, and it was my eighth interview, and folks really enjoyed it. From there, I managed to speak to Dragon, Brian Arnold, who is the security on the ranch, currently on a bit of a sabbatical. One of his sons wasn't too well and hopefully he's a lot better now. I then had Travis Taylor on the podcast and Brandon Fugle multiple times.
All of those feature in this first part. And also on the Thomas Winterton show, if you think my audio sounds like I'm on a bit of an old school radio podcast, I made a proper rookie mistake back in the early days of the podcast. What I'd done was I had a really good microphone from the get-go.
But for about the first seven interviews or eight interviews, if you listen to me in the very first shows, you'll hear my audio doesn't sound great. And that's because I'd plugged the microphone into the laptop, but I hadn't connected the actual microphone to be on the settings, the microphone to work properly.
and i was still using the laptop audio you then notice afterwards all of a sudden the audio improves when i realized what i was doing wrong it's it's absolutely fine to listen to and it's only that first interview it just sounds a little bit old school radio from my side thomas winterton does most of the talking this is part one of the skinwalker ranch omnibus and i hope you enjoy
Part two includes interviews again with Brandon Fugle, Eric Bard, Ben Woodruff, and Jim Sagala. Sit back, enjoy the omnibus, and I'll speak to you all soon. So welcome back everyone to episode 8 of That UFO Podcast.
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Chapter 2: What challenges did Andy face during early podcast interviews?
But it's fun to go in a store and have people want your autograph or want to take a picture with you. That's kind of cool. I like that, but... It definitely is taking some adjustment. I'm a private person. I've never been one that shared a lot on social media. You know, I like my privacy. So there are some adjustments that come with the newfound recognition. But overall, I'm happy and it's good.
Awesome. Well, it's great to hear your voice doing a few different interviews out there. I listen to you and research on this podcast and I've heard you on a few things anyway. And of course, the last couple of months I've been catching up with the series.
I started watching it when it was on in the US originally, just via means online because it came on a little bit later here in the UK and I wanted to kind of watch it straight away. But I've been catching up with it while it's been on here as well. So it's been great. What I want to start off with is something I heard quite recently on an interview you've done previously.
Now, we're going to talk a lot about Skinwalker Ranch and everything that comes with that. But you've had your own UFO sighting when you were younger. And I just wanted to hear a little bit about that from you, Thomas.
OK, so you'd like to know about my UFO sighting when I was a when I was a child.
Yes.
Yeah. You know, unfortunately, it really was pretty anticlimactic. When I was growing up, there was an old oil refinery that was out on the west side of town, and my window in my bedroom overlooked that. And I was up late. I mean, it was late for a kid. It was probably like 11 or 12 at night.
And I looked out the window and I saw this big, gorgeous, beautiful orange moon just out there on the horizon above the refinery. I mean, it looked identical to the moon, but I mean, it was just gorgeous. And it was just out there hovering. But it wasn't a full moon. It was like it was like a half moon. But instead of. It was scooped, kind of like a bowl, I guess, sitting there on the horizon.
It was big enough and beautiful enough that it definitely caught my attention. I looked at it. I thought, wow. Then I went about my business. I don't remember if I was cleaning up my room or what I was doing, but when I finished, I looked back out the window to see if I could get one more look at the moon before I went to bed and it wasn't there. And it was low enough on the horizon.
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Chapter 3: How did Thomas Winterton's background influence his perspective on Skinwalker Ranch?
The kind of my background that got me into that was my construction management. And then, you know, my my. My side job of being campaign manager and being involved in politics. So, you know, it got my fingers in a lot of things.
I was going to say, and you have not even mentioned, I believe, your CEO of your wife's company as well, which deals in a lot of meditational therapies. Is that right, too?
Yeah, so... I actually have a film production company and then we have this – we have Residence Meditations, which when it looked like we were going to start filming this last summer, we actually ended up selling our motels. It was just – it was too much, too many irons in the fire. And so I stepped away from the film production company, which –
Our focus there, people hear that and they think, oh, well, that's why you guys are doing a film out there on the ranch. It had absolutely nothing to do with that. We actually do family documentaries. So we're about capturing people's life stories and putting them into movies. So I stepped away from that and I stepped away from the motel.
And, uh, really my wife's, my wife's company that we've started this meditation company is, um, that's, that's my whole focus. So the ranch is something that I enjoy doing and I, I work out there every week. It is a job, you know, I spend at least 30 or 40 hours a week on the ranch, but my main focus is this meditation company of my wife's. And, uh,
And we're having amazing results with it and changing lives. And for me, that's what it's all about is trying to improve the human race.
Absolutely. And I would recommend the links are on your Twitter bio as well for resonance meditation. Yeah. Yeah. And it's all.
Yeah. I encourage it. It's amazing. And I won't take much of your time here because it's another issue. But I encourage people to look into it because it's going to change the world. It's not just a typical meditation.
No, absolutely. Please check that out as well. I know we'll have a lot of listeners interested in those sorts of topics too. So I just want to double back a little bit. So you talked about what you've grown up in that area. So you know about Skinwalker Ranch. What was your own personal knowledge of the ranch? Its history, the myths surrounding it.
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Chapter 4: What unusual experiences have been reported at Skinwalker Ranch?
It's no different than the rest of the million UFO stories we've been told in the fact that in order for you to accept it, you have to overlook a lot of – for example, my windows rolled down. And the specific camera of my surveillance system at my house, before the windows go down, it shuts itself off.
The other seven cameras that are on the system work beautifully, never even so much as flickered. And yet the one on the front of my house facing this car goes off for a couple of minutes.
There's no way people would have – like for this to be significant, people have to take me at my word that I didn't go upstairs and turn that camera off, that I didn't just use the key fob and roll the windows down, that I didn't turn it off or walk outside. Like there's a lot of holes here that I'm expecting people to believe, and the truth is I don't expect them to believe.
I'm simply just throwing an experience out there and saying – This is what's taken place. And as far as being able to prove it, well, I can't prove that my key fob was on my dresser the whole time or my little nightstand. I can't prove that I didn't go upstairs and turn that camera off. And so because of that, I also can't prove that it happened the exact way it did.
All I know is I came home from the ranch. It's a cold morning. It's 11 below 11 Fahrenheit below zero here in Roosevelt. My windows are rolled up. I pull in. I come in the house. My key fob. I only have one key fob to my car. And I set it down. I was actually showering and getting ready.
That's how I like I know for a fact I didn't have the key fob in my pocket because I didn't have I was showering, getting ready. And my son comes and knocks on my bedroom door and says, Dad, your your windows are all down in your car. The heck? Well, so I go outside and sure enough, the windows are all down. I try to roll them up. I can't roll them up.
So I have to run in the house, grab my key fob, run out there. roll them up and uh i immediately go upstairs to my camera system to look and see how the heck my windows rolled themselves down and lo and behold that one camera facing my car went down for three minutes now i think it was i think it was a three minute time of period that it went down
Um, now Eric helped me get into the log of my camera system, which shows every time it's been logged into, it shows when it's been given a command to stop recording. It logs all of this stuff. There were no, nobody logged into the system. It'd probably be a very easy system to hack. I'm not saying it's very secure. But nobody logged into it.
There were no commands given to that camera to shut off. It just decided to quit working for three minutes, the same three minutes that these windows rolled themselves down. My car does have – and I learned this from the viewers on Twitter. I appreciate it. Like I didn't know this, but my key fob, if I hold the unlock button long enough, the windows will roll themselves down.
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Chapter 5: How does the presence of cameras affect the team's dynamics?
So it's a feature that is built into the car. It is made to do that. I didn't know it was there when I put it on Twitter. So I'm grateful for the viewers that – or the Twitter followers that bring that to my attention. It explains part of the mystery. But I didn't have the key fob on me, so I know for a fact there was no way that key fob button got pushed and rolled those windows down.
But then it brings it back. What is it that we see on the ranch all the time? It's the electromagnetic radiation that we're picking up, these radio frequencies. Well, that's all the key fob is, is a radio frequency to the car, tells it to do that. And then the camera going down, again, another electronic radio.
So it's possible that whatever has the ability to hit that frequency and make that car do that, that's one example of things that we've seen. The list is long, and I've had some things that have been serious enough that I've had to call the authorities and some things that have terrified my family and so forth. There's, there's those things that I know are real.
And then I tell people there's also the observer effect. I mean, you go buy, go, go buy a white Jeep. And the next day you realize that 10 of your neighbors have the same white Jeep. And you didn't notice that the day before, right? Like we noticed those things. So before I worked on the ranch, who's to say that I didn't have crazy things happening around me, but I just was oblivious to it.
So I try to take that into account and say, well, Is it that there's really more crazy things going on at my house? Or is it simply that I work on the ranch and now I recognize and observe more crazy things? They were there the whole time, but I just didn't notice them. There's all these things you have to weigh out and balance and say, what is it?
There are several of these serious things that have taken place that I know for a fact. Those things didn't happen before my association with the ranch. So There's definitely some aspect or element of it. And then you add in the fact that so many people that have visited the ranch go home and whatever it is, this is their words. It followed them home. You know, the hitchhiker effect.
I believe in it completely. I believe it's real. But that's that's just me.
No. Awesome. Dan also asked, are you a cat or a dog person?
I'm a dog person. I got two chows.
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Chapter 6: What are the challenges of securing Skinwalker Ranch?
I'm a chow guy. I got a white chow and a red chow.
Awesome. And not to upset anyone, but that's the only answer to that question anyway. So last question from Andy. You mentioned just before there, Thomas, about the Tic Tac incident and UFOs. What do you think we are seeing in our skies when it comes to some of these crafts? Would you go as far to say aliens? Is that if it was a personal opinion or?
Yeah, I'm starting to think it would have to be extraterrestrial. I've always been of the mindset that it was just secret projects with governments, deep state type stuff. But I'm coming more of the mindset that some of these possibly, probably are extraterrestrial.
Awesome. Thank you. And thanks to all the listeners for those questions. So we'll move on to the quickfire round. So, Thomas, before we finish up, a bit of a word association here. What I've done for this one is I've got a few different names. I've got the cast on here as well.
And if you want to just give us a quick one word or a few words on each or you can expand your answers, that's absolutely fine. So the first one is Dragon Brian Arnold. Good guy. Brandon Fugle.
Boy. Undescribable, maybe? It's hard to describe Brandon in one word. He's an incredible human being. Travis Taylor. Travis is a fun guy to be around. Eric Bob. Smartest guy I've ever met. Jim Sagala. Uh, so with Jim, uh, so Jim for me is, uh, you know, I have a little, I'm grateful to Jim.
Jim's my security blanket because he's kind of the – when I say security blanket, I just mean he understands my injury probably better than anybody else on the ranch team. So I like having him on the ranch when it comes to my health because I feel like he understands better than anyone else what happened to me, if that makes sense.
Yeah. Yeah, awesome.
The next one would be the possibility there are portals on the ranch. Yeah, I think yes. I think it's highly possible. Okay. Your own ideas or perception of how consciousness plays into all of this phenomena?
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Chapter 7: What makes Skinwalker Ranch a unique paranormal hotspot?
Awesome. Skinwalker ranch.
Skinwalker ranch. It is, it's craziness wrapped up in a barbed wire fence, I guess. Um, It's my favorite place on the planet where I, when I'm away, I miss it. But when I'm here, sometimes I want to get the hell away. It is definitely a special place that I think holds some really incredible mysteries or answers to mysteries and questions that hopefully we can get to the bottom of.
But it is a place that needs to be respected.
Awesome. The next one would be your thoughts on CE5.
CE5.
So the contact method for summoning extraterrestrial craft in the sky. Oh, gosh.
I don't know.
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Chapter 8: What are the implications of CE5 and UFO beliefs?
Honestly, I don't have an opinion on that. Honestly, I don't.
Never had any of it tried on the site?
No. No, we haven't.
Okay. Might be interesting.
Yeah. Well, I'll definitely make note of that.
Next one would be UFOs.
I believe in them. I believe in them now. I've seen one. Well, I've seen multiple, and I'll take it to my grave. I know what I've seen, and until someone can give me a better explanation of what I've seen with my own eyes, UFOs are real, and I hope that we can find out more about them.
Second last one would be extraterrestrials.
I would say, you know, to me, an extraterrestrial would be maybe anybody not from our realm. So I think that there's definitely an intelligence at play on Skinwalker Ranch. And so I would say, you know, I don't, I don't know if an extraterrestrial is the little gray aliens that everyone, you know,
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