Thomas Winterton

And then the camera going down, again, another electronic radio.

So it's possible that whatever has the ability to hit that frequency and make that car do that, that's one example of things that we've seen.

The list is long, and I've had some things that have been serious enough that I've had to call the authorities and some things that have terrified my family and so forth.

There's, there's those things that I know are real.

And then I tell people there's also the observer effect.

I mean, you go buy, go, go buy a white Jeep.

And the next day you realize that 10 of your neighbors have the same white Jeep.

And you didn't notice that the day before, right?

Like we noticed those things.

So before I worked on the ranch, who's to say that I didn't have crazy things happening around me, but I just was oblivious to it.

So I try to take that into account and say, well,

Is it that there's really more crazy things going on at my house?

Or is it simply that I work on the ranch and now I recognize and observe more crazy things?

They were there the whole time, but I just didn't notice them.

There's all these things you have to weigh out and balance and say, what is it?

There are several of these serious things that have taken place that I know for a fact.

Those things didn't happen before my association with the ranch.

So

There's definitely some aspect or element of it.

And then you add in the fact that so many people that have visited the ranch go home and whatever it is, this is their words.