Tim Ray

So Drinking Bros is a fairly small podcast.

It's about 20,000 downloads and we're paying about 270 a pop versus we got a big podcast where you're coming up with WTF with Marc Maron.

And we're paying 10 grand a pop on that one.

Yeah.

We're paying per episode that it's red.

Right.

And, and, um, for example, we'll do a test, um, with a bunch of different shows, trying to see, you know, what resonates and we find that the other hit really well, or they don't hit at all.

Um, for example, we did, you know, um, originally we thought the subscriber for Conroe club was going to be this, you know, urban, urban, hip, steep, uh, hipster foodie.

Um, but we found, you know, yes, we have a lot of those people that like Conroe club, but our biggest advocates on social media are like these,

you know, more blue collar, you know, I don't want to say redneck, but very much more like down to earth.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah.

Yeah, exactly.

Awesome.

And so now we're trying to really, you know, tilt to really, you know, just like celebrating, you know, these guys, right?

Reading right now, 48 Laws of Power by Robert Greene.

I've always been a big fan of Elon Musk.

I know a lot of people are on that train, but I just think he's a really cool guy.

And he went to Queens University, which is where I did my MBA.

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