Tim Wilson

I mean, if you want to adjust negative gearing and stuff, fabulous.

But in your election campaign of 2025, that's what you say.

You don't say you're not going to do it and then do it, do you?

They're calling him Pinocchio.

Now, what Angus Taylor also said apart from his $22 billion worth of tax resets is the immigration.

He hasn't given a number on immigration, but he did suggest he'd boot up to 75,000 people out of the country.

That's Hanson-esque, isn't it?

Do you reckon Hanson's popular only in dum-dum Australia, you know, where people are a bit thick?

You know what I'm saying?

My problem with Hanson is not so much a policy.

I mean, you can argue whatever you want, but she's about an inch deep.

And once you've got past immigration and you need to actually have the wherewithal to run the vast mechanisms that required of the country, I don't know she's got the depth or anyone around has got the depth to actually.

I mean, there's a reason that the Libs and the Dems and the Labour Party have been around a long time.

They sort of within their own sphere know what they're doing.

You're an outstanding bloke.

You enjoy your time.

I know you're in Christchurch.

Best of the family and all that sort of stuff.

Murray Olds, our Australian correspondent this morning.

We didn't get to Coles, but I will do in just a couple of moments.