Tina Knowles
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321 appearances
3 recordings
3 series
first heard Apr 2025
last heard Jun 2025
Tina Knowles’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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You took the girls to the beach and Solange was very upset because what kind of mother would let us skip school? Right. She would say it all the time. She would say it to my friend Cheryl and she would say it to the therapist and the therapist is like, you know, Solange needs structure.
And I'm like, God, you know, it's like I wasn't a good mom because I love for them to miss school and hang out with me. And my mama loved for me to miss school. She would say, your stomach hurt? Okay, you don't have to go. And so I know that that wasn't the responsible thing. And she reminds me to this day of, you know, she accepts it now, Solange does.
But when she went to see the therapist, she was like, my mama is so irresponsible. I think this is so interesting that you...
I got so scared because they were, like, super close. Then all of a sudden, Solange was going, taking Beyonce's stuff, and Beyonce was kind of being a little mean to her, and I had never seen it before. It scared me to death because I was like, I want them to be close, and I want them to respect and love each other. Is this after Beyonce started performing? Yeah, Beyonce was performing.
She was this little local... you know, star and Solange was coming, doing, she started very early too, but it was like people would, if they saw the two girls, they would say, oh, God, you know, oh, she's so talented. And you know how they do. And then my other child is there, and I'm like, hey, you better tell her something, too. So I didn't have any problem doing that.
But I saw this thing, and I think... You saw the division starting to happen. I saw the division, and also what really shocked me and made me move forward with it was the girls, the group was at our house all the time, and I just noticed they started saying, Sit down, Solange. Shut up, Solange. And Beyonce wasn't defending her.
So that mama bear, that defender in me said, uh-uh, you got to protect your sister. She's like, but she gets on my nerves. She's all in my stuff. So that's why I took them. And it was the best thing I could have ever done for them because they got close again.
And Beyonce started respecting Solange because, you know, the therapist was saying, you're going to make your little sister, you know, feel very insecure.
She was seven years old and she did this parochial, they called it a parochial school talent show up to high school. And I was so scared because I was like, they're going to ruin her confidence. But she got out there and just... turned into the biggest little diva on stage. And she was shy, you know, very shy. That's why we got her into it anyway. And she, we couldn't believe that it was her.
And she came off the stage. I mean, she got a standing ovation and she came off the stage and she was like, I'm hungry. I want to just get my trophy and my money and go. And I'm like, oh, my God. Because, you know, that old thing about being cocky or thinking you're cute or thinking you're all that kicked in for me. So I was like, you don't know if you won and you got to be humble.
But anyway, it was the best thing that could happen to her because she could turn it off. Like when she came off the stage, she was just Beyonce. And she's still like that. I mean, she's the furthest thing from a diva that you could be.
She's a diva.
She is because everything is seen through the lens of art. I mean, sometimes it's irritating because I'm like, girl, this ain't art. This is life. But that's how she sees things as an art piece. And it's different. It's really unique. Yes. Yes. Yes.
It felt so normal to me because Johnny was so special. And I just thought everybody accepted. You know, we just always accepted it. And his mother accepted him and my mother accepted him. He was, you know, her favorite grandchild. And so... People respected him because we respected him. Oh, that's such a powerful thing. People respected him because the family respected him.
And my brothers respected him. My brothers were these macho athletes, and my nephews were. But they accepted Johnny. They walked down the street with Johnny and his sharp clothes, and we were proud of him, and so everybody else was. Didn't they try to get him one time to play ball, some kind of ball? Yeah, they made him play basketball. He didn't like it at all. What happened to you two? Same.
Right. They were going to macho him up a bit. But just to protect him, though, it came from a love of protection for him, not from a we're going to beat you down type way. And they left him alone after that. And they was like, Johnny, I'll make the costumes for basketball. But he didn't know how to play basketball.
Yeah. not only the record company, but when I would go to shoots and people wouldn't talk to me or, you know, because I was country and I had this big hair and I never in the early days would do myself up because I was so busy all the time. And it was also a thing of not wanting to Stand out, I think.
You know, I've thought about it many times because I don't have a passive personality, but I would let people say things because I think I thought I deserved to be not on their level back then.
You don't belong here. Yeah.
And then that all changed when? Well, it changed later, but it was a fight. The whole thing was a fight for a long time. And then, you know, but people love the costumes. The people love the costumes. The fashion magazines didn't love them. The designers didn't love them. They made fun of it all the time.
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