Toby Buckle

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Is between different versions of morality.
On the one hand, you could have a retributive justification for the death penalty, that yes, this is killing, but it's deserved because that person killed, do unto others, right?
What's it called?
Lex talionis, the idea of proportional retribution.
I generally wouldn't be sympathetic to that, though I know it's one a lot of people are familiar with.
Another justification for the death penalty.
Penalty could be preventative.
It sets an example and deters future murders.
Now, I don't think empirically that is the case.
If it were, I'd actually be sympathetic to that argument.
But there I would run into a fundamental disagreement with most liberals, and certainly on a philosophical basis, most Kantians or deontologists.
They would say you're using people as means but not an end.
So a Kantian might be.
fine with preventative killing in the case of, say, taking down a school shooter if there was no other way to stop his rampage, right?
But they wouldn't be okay with the idea of preventative killing of a murderer to prevent future murders.
And my view actually is I don't
really see the distinction.
I think it's comparatively unimportant.
But that's a sort of fundamental
moral divide that just comes from different starting points and
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