Toby Buckle

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We would never say that the goal of our lives, our highest aspiration, is to be non-homeless.

In the same way, if you look at the word freedom in the Old Testament, in Mesopotamian societies, in preliterate societies, is a descriptor.

It's like being non-homeless.

And then when you get Greece, Rome, even early Christianity, it both takes on new meanings beyond not being a slave.

It takes on meanings of autonomy, of collective decision-making that it didn't have before.

But it also goes.

from being a completely peripheral value in that person's worldview, to absolutely central and in some ways constitutive of the entire thing.

And then there's other values like something like honor, arete, virtue,

Would you go from being arguably absolutely central to more marginal?

So that's the other layer I'd add, when I think how we need to think about how radically different different ideas and value systems are.

Great.

So yeah, it's not a self evident claim.

This isn't a truth you can arrive to at the armchair, it's a historical and in some ways it's an empirical claim, right?

Or rather it's an inference from empirical evidence, right?

I think we'd have to cash out what you mean when you say all people value the same things.

That seems to me

Either true but so general that it kind of doesn't track to anything.

falsifiable in that there will be counterexamples.

So I think actually I mean, let me give you a few counterexamples.

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