Toby Stuart

We now believe that status antenna, so to speak, like the ability to understand a hierarchical landscape.

To read the status room.

But we actually have it.

It's like innate because it's all the way back to hierarchy.

Yeah, exactly.

You can't make it.

Right.

I learned about art when I was writing the book just because it was kind of fun.

So the book is much broader than the cultural markets, but status is super important in the cultural markets of which Hollywood is certainly one.

So your industry and media writ large status processes are obviously super important in how these markets function.

The Rembrandt story was just so interesting to me though.

So I became aware of a situation where there's a Rembrandt

collector.

It's literally in the dude's blood.

Like his great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather sat in a Rembrandt portrait.

His family's been collecting Rembrandts for however many generations since then.

Jan Six is his name.

So he's an art dealer, collector, significant figure in the art world.

So he's flipping through a catalog at Christie's.

And you learn all these things when you write a book.