Tom Holland

That's poor from Saddam Hussein, isn't that disappointing?

It has to be said that the Iranians turn that on its head and they say that there are three things that God should not have created, flies, Jews and Arabs.

So it goes two ways.

The praying really kicks in a bit later, doesn't it?

It does, yeah.

But I imagine right from the beginning he's a great man for a cardigan.

Totally he is, yeah.

I cannot imagine Donald Trump wearing a cardigan.

Yeah.

And I mean, in view of what is going to happen in 1979 and through the 80s, actually the last laugh is on them because they haven't recognised that religion is going to become an expression of the modern.

God, as filled with love as are the American people.

Yeah.

There's a recipe for a happy administration.

So he begins, doesn't he, looking very kind of sunny, full of the optimism of the South and all that.

And very rapidly he comes to look grey and haggard and worn.

Yeah, because he's not sleeping.

And in the long run, this isn't going to look good when he goes for a run.

Oh, yes.

Famously, the tennis courts thing, which you love, don't you?

Tennis court bookings.