Tom Nuttall

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The Intelligence from The Economist · Focused group: Ukraine is now Europe’s war · 3 Jun 2026 podcast

Yeah, I mean, when Mr.

Matz put forward this proposal, the idea was to give Ukraine temporarily a form of what he called associate membership, which would be like

presence in meetings without voting rights, a judge on the European Court of Justice without voting rights and these sorts of things.

That was immediately rejected by Vladimir Zelensky as unfair.

And I think one of the reasons why the Ukrainians get so irritated by this sort of thing is not just that they see it as code for just putting us in the waiting room endlessly, but because they have begun

To enjoy some advances on the battlefield.

And because, in some senses, they have begun to see themselves as a security partner for the Europeans rather than just a recipient of charity, there is a strong sense that we here are safeguarding the security of all Europeans.

And it's our people who are paying the price in blood, not the Europeans.

And yet we are being told that we're not worthy of anything except for quote unquote association.

It's membership.

The problem is that for the Europeans, when you get somebody like Mr.

Metz, who is doing something like this, as people will say, to try to re-inject some energy into the succession process, it's immediately dumped on by the Ukrainians, who, by the way, they will say, are doing nothing like enough to tackle some of the institutional problems, the corruption, the rule of law difficulties in the country that they must do to get the

succession process back on the road.

A few years ago there was a lot of concern about so-called war fatigue taking hold in Europe, that they were not going to have the stomach to ride this one out, particularly if America lost interest.

And in fact, the opposite has happened.

Europe has replaced the financial aid that America has provided.

It's an increasingly important security partner to the Ukrainians.

I don't see any sign yet, at least in important EU countries, of

Of the fatigue that people were worried about.

The problem is this issue of a gulf in understanding between the two sides and the sense that you get in countries like Germany that we are doing our best to try and ensure that we retain some energy in the accession process and retain support for sanctions and so on, and that our best efforts are batted away by the Ukraine.

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